Re: [gentoo-dev] New project: Gentoo Seeds

[Donnie Berkholz]

Daniel Ostrow wrote:
> Here is my take on the issue, it's something I saw happen when Gentoo on
> Mac OSX was announced, again with Sunrise, and now with Seeds (also note
> I'm not making a value judgment about any of the aforementioned
> projects, I just note a similar progression of events). There are those
> among us (myself often included, and mostly because I had a hand in the
> way the OSX port was handled at the outset) that believe that you
> shouldn't announce things in the manner of "Gentoo is doing XYZ now." in
> public fora (lists, gwn whataveyou) without first talking internally to
> verify the viability of the project, it's impacts on other projects,
> potential points of collaboration etc. This also coming up with a
> rational reference implementation and a list of tools that you will
> need. Now I realize that this means that there is less public visibility
> for projects in their larval stage, which can mean less (new) hands
> helping to figure out the above, but it also means an informed set of
> peers and no surprises.

Those of us with that belief ought to realign their actions with the 
current, democratically approved (woohoo, go democracy!) metastructure 
proposal. It says anyone can create a project at any time.

Whether it comes as an announcement that a new project has been created 
(which means what exactly? A single webpage in Gentoo CVS at proj/en/? 
Yeah, let's spaz out over how irreversible that is..) or as a proposal, 
it's a surprise in the first place and it informs your peers. Either way 
it ought to get them excited about getting involved and helping to 
improve plans, not flipping out over how they weren't informed privately 
in advance because it pertains to them.

Private talk on private lists is for closed projects.

Thanks,
Donnie
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