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From: "René 'Necoro' Neumann" <lists@××××××.eu>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in dev-python/PyZilla: PyZilla-0.1.0.ebuild ChangeLog metadata.xml
Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2011 21:29:19
Message-Id: 4D8FABE5.4010006@necoro.eu
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in dev-python/PyZilla: PyZilla-0.1.0.ebuild ChangeLog metadata.xml by Rich Freeman
1 Am 27.03.2011 22:44, schrieb Rich Freeman:
2 > We shouldn't be punishing people for not becoming developers. I don't
3 > want to use a distro that throws up warning messages every few months
4 > because some package I've been using had its developer retire, and I'm
5 > a developer. If it breaks and I care enough about it, I'll rescue it.
6 > If I'm passionate about it, I'll step in before it breaks. Holding
7 > users ransom is not the solution.
8
9 Well, but you need some way of communicate that certain packages are w/o
10 a proper maintainer. Why else should someone step up? I, for instance,
11 was quite surprised about the list of m-n packages and seeing that quite
12 some packages I use are on that list. I would never had a look at it
13 without this thread (or are users nowadays supposed to check
14 metadata.xml on a regular basis?).
15
16 So, why not at least add some elog-like output at the end of an emerge
17 run like "The following installed packages are without maintainer:
18 $LIST. If you want to step up, please see $PROXY_MAINTAINER_URL."
19
20 And before you state "well - it is enough if someone steps up when it
21 breaks": Even then it might get unnoticed, that the package is
22 unmaintained. I never check thoroughly where the package gets assigned
23 to during bug-wrangling, and I suppose that I'm not alone here. So the
24 only thing one notices is a bug which never gets any response. And this
25 is frustrating.
26
27 Regarding the pro-active masking/removal: As a user I'd object to this.
28 Please try a less obtrusive path first, like the info output I mentioned
29 above. Seeing that used packages gets masked quite often spawns bad mood
30 (at least in my experience and seeing reactions in forum threads).
31
32 - René

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