1 |
On Tuesday 06 December 2011 11:50:52 Alec Warner wrote: |
2 |
> On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 8:39 AM, Rich Freeman wrote: |
3 |
> > On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 11:17 AM, Mike Frysinger wrote: |
4 |
> >> ncurses is no longer part of the system deps. in practice, this |
5 |
> >> probably won't make a difference to most people since bash itself |
6 |
> >> depends on ncurses, but it does make embedded/etc... simpler. |
7 |
> > |
8 |
> > Hmm, I wonder how much further we'll have to go before you could use |
9 |
> > portage to build an initramfs. :) |
10 |
> |
11 |
> Whatever man, look at all this bloat! |
12 |
> |
13 |
> virtual/ssh |
14 |
|
15 |
i think ssh is so prevalent in today's world that it should be a default on |
16 |
all Gentoo systems. the people who are building standalone systems to the |
17 |
point where they don't want ssh in/out are enough of a minority (in my |
18 |
educated guess) that they can go through the hassle of: |
19 |
mkdir -p /etc/portage/profile/ |
20 |
echo net-misc/openssh-0 >> /etc/portage/profile/package.provided |
21 |
|
22 |
what might be interesting is if we had a "Gentoo default" set which is what |
23 |
would come in a stage3 rather than the current "stage3 is the system set". |
24 |
then we could move virtual/ssh out of the system set and into the "Gentoo |
25 |
default" set so it'd be easier for people to drop/etc... but i'm not familiar |
26 |
enough with the portage support atm to say how feasible such an idea would be. |
27 |
|
28 |
> sys-apps/kbd |
29 |
|
30 |
this controls keyboard mappings and fonts on the console. while the default |
31 |
is probably OK for the USians, most everyone else wants to tweak these. |
32 |
|
33 |
> sys-apps/texinfo |
34 |
|
35 |
i personally detest info pages, but we end up needing texinfo by many many |
36 |
packages just to *build* the info pages. and there are some info pages which |
37 |
are vastly superior to the man pages (if any are provided) because the GNU |
38 |
project has the policy of "info pages are the one true documentation format". |
39 |
compare & contrast `man gdb` to `info gdb` or `man make` vs `info make`. |
40 |
-mike |