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From: Jon Portnoy <avenj@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] New project: Gentoo Seeds
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 18:22:34
Message-Id: 20060920181635.GA29243@cerberus.oppresses.us
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] New project: Gentoo Seeds by Chris Gianelloni
1 On Wed, Sep 20, 2006 at 10:49:40AM -0400, Chris Gianelloni wrote:
2 >
3 > Because it's *REALLY* stupid and shows just how unprofessional we are
4 > when we have multiple groups doing the *EXACT* same thing using
5 > different policies and procedures and all pushing it as if it were
6 > *OFFICIAL* for the distribution.
7 >
8 > I mean, we're really getting to the point where this is getting
9 > *COMPLETELY* ludicrous. Instead of trying to work together, we have
10 > every yahoo with an @gentoo.org address who wants to do something
11 > *slightly* differently coming up with a new "project" for it.
12 >
13
14 Once upon a time, all us yahoos with @gentoo.org addresses could start
15 doing something new and interesting without getting chewed on.
16
17 I don't see you wanting to work together with anyone, I see you
18 attacking this with no apparent justification provided except "we could
19 have done this too"
20
21 > Why can't we simply try to work *together* on things instead of this
22 > whole "I'll start a new project" mentality that we have? It seems that
23 > this *exact* sort of action is what causes frustrations between
24 > developers and serves to strengthen the territorial pissing contests
25 > that are going on daily all over Gentoo. The reason why it seems Gentoo
26 > is fracturing is because of multiple people doing the exact same thing
27 > in slightly different ways. Our users don't know what the hell is going
28 > on anymore. Well, they're not alone... neither do I.
29 >
30
31 Chris, I have all the respect in the world for releng and the work you
32 do there. I know firsthand that releng is a very difficult task.
33
34 However, I am having great difficulty comprehending why you even
35 bothered sending this mail. Are you trying to say releng was already
36 doing this and nobody knew about it, or that releng should've been asked
37 to approve this, or what? You're the only one getting territorial about
38 it, I'm curious as to what the real issue is.
39
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41 Jon Portnoy
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