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From: Ciaran McCreesh <ciaran.mccreesh@××××××××××.com>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council Reminder for May 28
Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 18:48:53
Message-Id: 20090528194845.30a7c9ad@snowcone
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council Reminder for May 28 by Patrick Lauer
1 On Thu, 28 May 2009 20:30:44 +0200
2 Patrick Lauer <patrick@g.o> wrote:
3 > > Interactive time is important. If it were adding those extra
4 > > seconds to the build, no-one would care. But it's not. It's adding
5 > > them to when the user's sitting at the screen waiting for results.
6 >
7 > So how about we improve the structure instead of trying to patch up
8 > some hotspots?
9
10 That's a subject for a different GLEP, and one that's not going to go
11 anywhere ever unless someone comes up with a way of doing it
12 incrementally. GLEP 55's performance concerns are limited to not making
13 things worse.
14
15 > For example a readonly repository would guarantee that the cache is
16 > always consistent.
17
18 Until someone modifies it, yes.
19
20 > > > You mean 0.3% (or less) of the emerge world time?
21 > >
22 > > No, he means 50% of pretend time when you're sitting there waiting
23 > > to see what's going to happen.
24 >
25 > So fix the diseases instead of doctoring around some symptoms ...
26
27 I await your GLEP that covers how to migrate the tree layout. That's a
28 separate issue, however.
29
30 > > It is the best. If we're requiring EAPI before trying to parse PV,
31 > > all the EAPIs have to be known to do any ordering.
32 >
33 > ... and why the [censored] would we want that then?
34
35 Because without that, we can't make changes to the version format.
36
37 > It would help if you would tolerate other opinions (or even the
38 > possibility that other people may have opinions that do not agree
39 > with you).
40
41 The only issue of opinion is whether or not .ebuild-X and .eapi-X.eb
42 look pretty. The rest is purely technical and entirely objective.
43
44 --
45 Ciaran McCreesh

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