Nikos Chantziaras wrote:

> Thomas Sachau wrote:
>> I would like to ask all people, who get to users, who want to contribute with ebuilds or similar,
>> tell them about our sunrise overlay[1][2]. People can learn how to write ebuilds, they can learn how
>> to write ebuilds with some nice QA, they learn how to manage a SCM (in this case svn) and some may
>> even enhance to gentoo developers. :-)
>> As a side effect, we get a nice collection of ebuild, which are easily maintainable even by users
>> and which are easily accessable by everyone.
>> 
>> Esp. i would ask those who wrangle bug: If a user contributes an ebuild for an app not already in
>> portage, tell them about sunrise, so they help out a little bit more, if they are interested. With
>> that done, something like "sunrise suggested" in Whiteboard would be nice.
>
> I was told to try sunrise with some of my ebuilds.  There's a reason I 
> didn't, and I suspect it's the same other people also don't go to 
> sunrise.  There's no good way of contributing an ebuild.  There's no 
> bugzilla or website where I can upload the ebuild.  All I'm told is to 
> go to IRC.  I would as well might have been required to go to McDonald's.

Well, sunrise is not about uploading a package just somewhere but about
having it reviewed and corrected such that it follows basic guidelines.
Since this process requires bi-directional communication, IRC is a good
(low-latency) way to do that.

And if you'd have read the sunrise project site you'd know that all
ebuilds in sunrise need a corresponding "ebuild request" bug in
bugzilla.

I know that this requires more time from people writing ebuilds getting
their work in sunrise than just to upload it somewhere.

On the plus side we had many people recruited via the sunrise project
(including myself), we can provide a minimal support for people having
problems with ebuilds in the sunrise overlay and provide a minimal
guarantee that the ebuilds should work, not include trojans/malware,
etc.

Now, since the sunrise project gets bigger, we might also create a
mailinglist to discuss ebuilds for people can't/do not want to use IRC.
This would also make it possible to CC the mailinglist-address for bugs
where the ebuilds are in sunrise.

Cheers,
Tiziano