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From: Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@...>
Subject: Re: My wishlist for EAPI 5
Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2012 08:29:08 +0000 (UTC)
Richard Yao posted on Wed, 20 Jun 2012 16:50:33 -0400 as excerpted:

> On 06/20/2012 04:35 PM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
>> On Wed, 20 Jun 2012 16:25:30 -0400 Richard Yao <ryao@g.o> wrote:

>>> POSIX Shell compliance
>> 
>> So far as I know, every PM relies heavily upon bash anyway (and can't
>> easily be made not to), so even if developers would accept having to
>> rewrite all their eclasses, it still wouldn't remove the dep.
>> 
> Lets address POSIX compliance in the ebuilds first. Then we can deal
> with the package managers.

Additionally, this is extremely unlikely because a number of developers 
insist on bash, to the extent that it would likely split gentoo in half 
if this were to be forced.  It wouldn't pass council.  It's unlikely to 
even /get/ to council.

Openrc could move to POSIX shell because its primary dev at the time 
wanted it that way and it's only a single package.  However, even then, 
doing it was controversial enough that said developer ended up leaving 
gentoo in-part over that, tho he did continue to develop openrc as a 
gentoo hosted project for quite some years.  Now you're talking trying to 
do it for /every/ (well, almost every) package, thus touching every 
single gentoo dev.  It's just not going to happen in even the medium term 
(say for argument APIs 5-7ish), let alone be something practical enough 
to implement, soon enough (even if everyone agreed on the general idea, 
they don't), to be anything like conceivable for EAPI5.

So just let that one be.  It's simply not worth tilting at that windmill.

(Arguably, multi-arch, while practical and actually working at least with 
portage in an overlay, fails that last bit as well.  If it was pushed, 
perhaps for EAPI6 or 7, but it's just not practical to consider it for 
EAPI5... unless you want to wait 3-5 years for EAPI5!)

-- 
Duncan - List replies preferred.   No HTML msgs.
"Every nonfree program has a lord, a master --
and if you use the program, he is your master."  Richard Stallman



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