On Sun, 2009-06-28 at 18:12 -0500, Dale wrote:
> Roy Bamford wrote:
> >
> >
> > You agree that common sense can't be used and admit that a corner case
> > exists that would in effect have the trustees pointing out to the
> > council that they had made an error of judgement and need to reverse a
> > decision that the last meeting made. I would prefer never to have to go
> > there.
> >
> > I do not agree that an all proxy council meeting shows that the council
> > does not take its responsibilities very seriously, rather that real
> > life has hit everyone at the same time and they have appointed
> > proxies. GLEP39 does not even set a limit on the maximum number of
> > council members who may be proxied at any single meeting.  
> >
> > As I have already said, I'm against the idea of proxies altogether.
> > We should amend glep39 to remove proxies and ensure that council
> > members are drawn from the developer community. Of course, that
> > does not eliminate the possibility of the trustees pointing out to the
> > council that they need to reverse a decision but it does ensure that
> > decisions are made only by council members who are Gentoo developers.  
> >
> 
> I'm just picking a random message so no fingers being pointed here.
> 
> As a long time Gentoo user, I have to ask.  Why is that EVERYONE on the
> council must be there or have someone there to represent them?  Would
> Gentoo come to a end if one person or even two people were not present? 
> 
All that's required is a quorum (4 out of 7) to hold a meeting.

> I do agree that if a proxy is going to be used, they should be a
> developer.  If it is not that way now, it should be changed.  I been
> using Gentoo for years and wouldn't even consider serving as a proxy.  I
> would certainly not want to be a tie breaker on a vote.
> 
> As a American that sees his own country's government getting out of
> control, never count on common sense.  Elected people rarely have any. 
> If they do during the election, it disappears after taking their
> position.  I think the vast majority of people here have seen that over
> the years.
> 
> My $0.02 worth.
> 
> Dale
> 
> :-)  :-) 

Regards,
Ferris
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Ferris McCormick (P44646, MI) <fmccor@g.o>
Developer, Gentoo Linux (Sparc, Userrel, Trustees)