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From: Sebastian Pipping <webmaster@××××××××.org>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: DistroWatch and Gentoo packages: status quo and future
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2009 20:00:06
Message-Id: 4AAD4F43.6060906@hartwork.org
In Reply to: [gentoo-dev] Re: DistroWatch and Gentoo packages: status quo and future by Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@cox.net>
1 Duncan wrote:
2 > Agreed. Yes, overlays are perhaps a bit more trouble to setup than
3 > simply maintaining normal tree updates once setup. But let's get some
4 > context here. layman's no difficulty at all, really, when compared to
5 > the ordinary stuff we expect Gentoo users to do all the time. Gentoo has
6 > never been about spoon-feeding and this is no exception. Layman is a
7 > great and powerful tool, certainly, and like any powerful tool, it takes
8 > a bit of learning to use, before even the user should trust himself with
9 > it. =:^) But that's more true of Gentoo itself than it is of layman, and
10 > anyone who can manage Gentoo can certainly manage layman with little
11 > trouble.
12
13 I think you forget about the learning curve: Gentoo users are not born
14 as Gentoo users. They are coming from other distros (say Debian or Ubuntu).
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16 For me it was unmasking that confused me a lot in the beginning.
17 There is three different kinds, one is not in "the books" afaik and it's
18 no fun to me to do. I guess without autounmask by now I would be so
19 frustrated to not use Gentoo anymore.
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21 Seriously, stuff like the layman setup mess is another tiny reason
22 keeping our user base smaller than needed, keeping our recruiting rates
23 down.
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27 Sebastian

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[gentoo-dev] Re: DistroWatch and Gentoo packages: status quo and future Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@×××.net>