On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 11:36:50PM +0200, Sebastian Pipping wrote:
> Arun,
> 
> 
> On 06/21/10 21:25, Arun Raghavan wrote:
> >> My manifesto up here now:
> >> http://dev.gentoo.org/~sping/council-manifesto-2010-sping.txt
> > 
> > For all your points where you do not have a concrete proposal of how
> > you intend to tackle the problem, could you please elaborate?
> 
> please take your time to formulate concrete questions.
> 
> 
> > """ (w.r.t. git migration)
> > I hope to see Robin integrate me with the conversion process.
> > """
> > 
> > How have you contributed to the effort thus far?
> 
> I would like to re-phrase this question to
> "how come you are able to help", okay?
> 
> I have
> - knowledge of Git beyond an average user of Git
> - migrated Portage from Subversion to Git
>     including explaining fake merges using commit-tree
>     to the portage developers [1] and more general essentials
>     before that [2]
> - helped tommy of sunrise to get his earler multilib fork into
>     the Portage repo
> - worked with
>   - Git hooks
>   - Gitosis
>   - Gitolite (including its setup)
> - studied ciabot integration recently
> - read most of gentoo-scm
> - exchanged ideas with rbu and idl0r about it

While an interesting list of skills, do you have any that are relevant 
to finishing the cvs->git issues?  I'll refer you to

http://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-scm/msg_f827a8dd519e2d831f77bb32895342bb.xml

Your proposed solutions in your manifesto is to just throw out the 
manifest bits that need completion, in the process ignoring the 
infrastructural and security reasons for their existance.  Same goes 
for ignoring the commit hooks chunk for rsync generation (after all, 
we can't just tell every gentoo user that "by the way, we're no longer 
going to update rsync").

I'd be a bit less critical of your offer here and the manifesto 
presented, if it was actually factual and at least a partially 
accurate understanding of the issues outstanding.

At the very least, I suggest you actually have a chat w/ Robin 
directly and get caught up on what the issues are rather than making 
claims about his work that are pretty far off base.

Also please note Arun's actual question was "what have you done to 
help", not "what skills do you have".  There is difference- one I'm 
guessing that is being lost in the language barrier.

~harring