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From: Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@×××.net>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in app-arch/bzip2: bzip2-1.0.5-r1.ebuild
Date: Wed, 08 Jun 2011 11:18:54
Message-Id: pan.2011.06.08.11.17.23@cox.net
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in app-arch/bzip2: bzip2-1.0.5-r1.ebuild by Dale
1 Dale posted on Tue, 07 Jun 2011 22:45:34 -0500 as excerpted:
2
3 > Mike Frysinger wrote:
4 >> On Tuesday, June 07, 2011 19:41:20 Dale wrote:
5 >>
6 >>> I have a question or two. I don't care if you, or others, reply to
7 >>> this with a answer, just think on it. A policy, rule if you will, has
8 >>> been decided on by the council. This after MUCH discussion on this
9 >>> list and the council hearing both sides of the argument. You,
10 >>> apparently on your own or with a few others, have decided to ignore
11 >>> the policy or rule.
12 >>>
13 >> umm, no, ive done no such thing. try again. -mike
14 >>
15 >>
16 > Let me see if I understand this correctly. Most devs and some users
17 > wants things put in the changelog. I don't know if it was you before
18 > but in the past someone didn't want to put when versions are removed.
19 > That person, whoever it was, said they were not going to do it because
20 > it was silly or whatever. This was taken to the council and it was
21 > decided that all changes had to be put in the changelog. Now in this
22 > thread, about the same thing from my understanding. You said "waste of
23 > time" and the policy is not "sane".
24 >
25 > So, council says it has to be done. You say you won't. Tell me where I
26 > missed the point here.
27
28 Mike's actually correct.
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30 He didn't say he was going to defy council, rather, that he simply
31 wouldn't be removing ebuilds /at/ /all/ until either the changelog is auto-
32 generated (making the case moot) or the council changes policy.
33
34 That means they'll either fall to someone else to do, or will simply
35 remain there, but either way, it's quite different from directly defying
36 the council decision.
37
38 Gentoo devs are volunteers in any case, and as such, the system, to the
39 degree that it works at all, does so because volunteers are (within
40 reason) allowed to have their foibles and the system ultimately works
41 around them. Because everyone has their foibles and if "the system"
42 couldn't work around them, "the system" would quickly cease to be!
43
44 --
45 Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs.
46 "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master --
47 and if you use the program, he is your master." Richard Stallman

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