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From: "Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto" <jmbsvicetto@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: split up media-sound/ category
Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 13:03:22
Message-Id: 4E072DDD.5080903@gentoo.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: split up media-sound/ category by Kent Fredric
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4 On 26-06-2011 12:23, Kent Fredric wrote:
5 > On 26 June 2011 23:40, Rich Freeman <rich0@g.o> wrote:
6 >>
7 >> I think we should avoid changing the fundamental design of portage,
8 >> such as removing categories or allowing tags to be used as
9 >> dependencies/etc. At least, not right now. If we set up namespaces
10 >> for tags that might allow for such a thing in the future.
11 >
12 > At this time I vehemently oppose the idea of using tags for dependencies.
13 >
14 > If there was even a good reason to do this, I would probably want to
15 > see the system working really well first.
16 >
17 >> The main driver behind tags seems to be searchability, and I think
18 >> that is something we could easily improve.
19 >
20 > +1
21 >
22 >> I don't think we should
23 >> hold that up over an initiative to completely re-architect Gentoo...
24 >
25 > +1
26
27 I agree with the above.
28
29 I've done my best to stay out of this discussion until now, but I see
30 people going so far "out of the box", that I fear if we were to do this
31 we would end up "breaking the box".
32
33 - From past discussions about tags, I'd also like to recall a few ideas
34 that have been completely ignored on this discussion:
35
36 * tags should only be important for searching or classifying packages
37 * tags should exist beyond portage / mostly use an on-line system
38 * tags should be usable and maintainable by users
39 * users should have a way to contribute directly to tags
40
41 That's why in the past the discussion pointed to using an online system
42 that users could contribute directly without having to wait on
43 developers answering their requests, why it was seen as a manual system
44 and why it didn't affect the package managers or tree.
45 Being able to combine tags on metadata.xml for the tree and overlays
46 with an on-line tagging system and have the tools use that data when
47 searching seems an interesting option.
48
49 - --
50 Regards,
51
52 Jorge Vicetto (jmbsvicetto) - jmbsvicetto at gentoo dot org
53 Gentoo- forums / Userrel / Devrel / KDE / Elections / RelEng
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