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From: Chris Gianelloni <wolf31o2@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo World Domination. a 10 step guide
Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2006 21:27:59
Message-Id: 1159997107.10543.84.camel@inertia.twi-31o2.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo World Domination. a 10 step guide by Donnie Berkholz
1 On Wed, 2006-10-04 at 12:21 -0700, Donnie Berkholz wrote:
2 > Donnie Berkholz wrote:
3 > > Chris Gianelloni wrote:
4 > >> Now, perhaps what everyone would like, instead, would be status reports
5 > >> *where necessary* from certain projects?
6 > >>
7 > >> In fact, the council has been discussing asking a few projects about the
8 > >> status on some of their tasks. The main reason for this is for
9 > >> communications purposes. Basically, we'd just get a "Hey, where are you
10 > >> at on $x?" response from the teams.
11 > >>
12 > >> I don't *want* to drown projects in bureaucracy and paperwork. I want
13 > >> them to *accomplish* things, instead.
14 > >
15 > > I really like the concept of answering questions rather than giving
16 > > arbitrary reports. The problem is, sometimes nobody outside your project
17 > > knows the right questions to ask.
18 >
19 > I was thinking more about this. What if, instead of these periodic
20 > status reports, you just send out a note when something interesting
21 > happens? There's no point in holding it back till your monthly required
22 > report, and it saves the trouble of the report when nothing's happening.
23
24 That's really a good idea. When I was writing, I was thinking more
25 along the lines of things like:
26
27 What's the status of bugs getting updated?
28 What's the status of anonsvn/anoncvs?
29 What's the status of QA's policy document?
30
31 These are things that either are interesting to a large number of
32 developers, and easier to answer once rather than 300 times, or things
33 the council itself has asked a group to do based on one of our
34 decisions. Of course, we could/would take ideas for things to ask, and
35 again, all we need really is something like this (mock) answer:
36
37 "Well, we have all the hardware in place and have gotten access to the
38 systems. We've installed the OS and setup the main databases, but we're
39 still having some issues with the virtual IP scheme, and that's slowing
40 us down on getting this implemented."
41
42 That's it. No long "report" or anything is necessary. Just a simple,
43 short few sentences on the current status is all that's really needed
44 for the long ongoing projects. For other things, like, xorg 7.1 going
45 stable or KDE 3.5.5 being unmasked, a simple announcement from the team
46 when it happens should really cover it. That isn't even necessary from
47 most projects, as they simply do maintenance tasks which don't really
48 need an announcement.
49
50 --
51 Chris Gianelloni
52 Release Engineering Strategic Lead
53 Alpha/AMD64/x86 Architecture Teams
54 Games Developer/Council Member/Foundation Trustee
55 Gentoo Foundation

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo World Domination. a 10 step guide Mike Pagano <mpagano@×××××.com>