[gentoo-dev] Re: "X" vs "gtk" USE flags

[Nikos Chantziaras]

On 02/08/2010 02:16 PM, Samuli Suominen wrote:
> On 02/08/2010 02:12 PM, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
>> On 02/08/2010 01:36 PM, AllenJB wrote:
>>> On 08/02/10 11:15, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
>>>> Hello.  Please don't be too harsh if I got this wrong or if this looks
>>>> like whining :P
>>>>
>>>> A lot of ebuilds seem to ignore the "X" USE flag and instead only have
>>>> "gtk", "qt" and the like.  This should be declared absolutely wrong,
>>>> IMHO.  When a program provides a command-line tool and a GUI tool, and
>>>> the GUI tool uses only one toolkit, then the USE flag should be "X".
>>>> [...]
>>>>
>>> I don't see that either system makes particularly more sense than the
>>> other.
>>>
>>> The only situation that comes immediately to mind is: Under the current
>>> system, if packages add or remove support for multiple toolkits, the
>>> changes are trivial, but under your system it would invoke shuffling use
>>> flags around (which could easily affect dependencies in other packages).
>>> It would also not be immediately clear which toolkits support has been
>>> added/removed under the proposed system (since a package would go from,
>>> for example, having use flags "gtk kde" to just "X").
>>
>> If it would be problematic for a package to switch to "X" then of course
>> it might be better to leave it as-is.  But most of the time, the
>> programs in question only state "gtk" or "fltk" in them, even though Gtk
>> is not optional at all.  A perfect example here is media-video/xvattr.
>> If you don't set the "gtk" USE flag, then you don't get the graphical
>> tool at all, only the command line tool.
>
> Very bad example.
>
> That's what people want: xvattr is used on headless VDR multimedia
> HTPC's, and VDR doesn't need toolkits like GTK+ installed.

So which should be preffered?  VDR people putting "media-video/xvattr 
-X" or desktop people putting "media-video/xvattr +gtk"?

Btw, I use xvattr and I don't have a VDR HTPC or anything like that.