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From: Robin H.Johnson <robbat2@g.o>
Subject: Re: USE flags again (informix, memlimit)
Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 13:41:33 -0700
On Wed, May 14, 2003 at 03:47:45PM +0200, foser wrote:
> On Wed, 2003-05-14 at 11:14, Robin H.Johnson wrote:
> > I've almost completed the new PHP eclasses for mod_php and CLI php.
> > I just wanted to discuss a possible new global USE flag.
> > 
> > informix - Provides support for IBM Informix server
> > 
> > This would compliment the current 'oci8' for Oracle.
> > Once we also get other packages for informix, then will greatly increase
> > our appeal to the enterprise market :-).
> 
> In my opinion USE flags should stay local as long as there's not
> multiple uses for it currently available (or pending) in the tree . I
> don't know if that's the case here (taking into consideration php and
> mod_php are basically the same package).
Informix is supported by 
dev-java/jdbc-informix
net-www/cocoon

But neither of those need the informix USE flag, however Informix is
supported in general.

> > We want to push this to a USE flag as it does cause a visible
> > performance hit for the increase in security it provides.
> > 
> > From a little research on Google, it seems that both TeX and PostGres
> > support memory limit stuff to some degree (I did not dig much beyond the
> > first page linked off google).
> wouldn't be a general security type of flag better ? In general it seems
> like the sort of thing flagged.
Any suggested names? Postgres and TeX seem to have it because they can
get big easily, not for security reasons.

> > Given the utter lack of response to Tal's previous email to -core, if I
> > don't get any answer on these by saturday, I'll look at including them
> > myself as they are needed for the new PHP ebuilds.
> see it like this, other devs don't deal with your packages and may be
> careful to give their opinion about something they haven't looked into
> (i know i am).
I don't expect that they have looked into my packages deeply, but I was
looking for response regarding these flags and their packages (which I
haven't looked deeply at).

> In general i was looking trough USE flags list, things like icc and
> jikes and memlimit maybe, do they really belong in use.desc ? Aren't USE
> flags defined as compile time enabling or disabling of certain features
> in an application, i guess memlimit fits the description, but icc and
> jikes don't, theyre compile time options that have no direct effect on
> the functionality of the app. Shouldnt they have their own file,
> removing some of the burden of the use.desc file ?
Is the performance of the app not part of it's functionality? If so,
then icc has a use. Likewise for jikes.

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