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2011-07-27 15:07:54 Rafael Goncalves Martins napisał(a): |
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> On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 6:02 AM, Pacho Ramos <pacho@g.o> wrote: |
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> > El mié, 27-07-2011 a las 09:39 +0200, Michał Górny escribió: |
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> >> Hello, |
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> >> |
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> >> As many of us already raged, the Python eclasses are delaying half |
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> >> a year with support of EAPI=4. The reason for that is not actually |
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> >> the lack of time or complexity of needed changes but willingness to use |
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> >> the new EAPI as an excuse to turn the eclass API upside down. |
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> >> |
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> >> The question I'm raising here: should eclasses be actually allowed to |
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> >> do *heavy* changes in their APIs in such cases? Or should the eclass |
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> >> maintainers create a new eclass instead (python-r1.eclass or so)? |
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> >> |
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> >> The main advantage I see in that is that devs are somehow forced |
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> >> to migrate their ebuilds as soon as they bump EAPI in them. Taking |
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> >> a look at a number of ebuilds still using git.eclass (instead of git-2) |
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> >> this is a serious advantage. |
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> >> |
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> >> On the other hand, I find this idea very unclear. Why should two |
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> >> ebuilds use completely different eclass variables just because they're |
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> >> using two different EAPIs? More importantly, why is a dev forced to do |
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> >> the migration in a random point when he/she wants to bump the ebuild |
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> >> EAPI? I'd like to remind you that python eclass is still hard to read |
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> >> for many of us. |
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> >> |
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> >> And why do we have to wait so long to use a new EAPI? We already had to |
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> >> fix a lot of ebuilds when old EAPIs were banned in Python eclasses. We |
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> >> wanted to bump the ebuilds to EAPI 4 then but the eclasses didn't |
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> >> support it. And now it still doesn't come with EAPI 4 support. |
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> >> |
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> >> And keeping two different EAPIs in a single eclass file means probably |
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> >> that older EAPIs are going to be banned at a random point once again. |
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> >> Devs will have to pro-actively migrate their ebuilds, overlays will |
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> >> break and so on. The usual procedure related to eclass removal wouldn't |
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> >> apply. |
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> >> |
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> >> So, don't you think it would be better to simply add EAPI=4 support to |
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> >> python eclass with no changes and start developing the new API in |
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> >> python-r1? Devs could migrate then at any point they want (and have |
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> >> time to!), and when Python team wants to get rid of the old eclass, |
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> >> the usual removal procedure will apply. |
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> >> |
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> > |
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> > About the concrete case of python eclass, per Arfrever's comment in bug |
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> > report related with its eapi4 support, that support is already available |
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> > in overlay, but not yet merged to the tree (probably because of the |
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> > possible upcoming retirement of Arfrever :-/). What is preventing python |
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> > team to merge eclass from overlay? |
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> > |
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> |
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> AFAIK, the EAPI4 support in the overlay is EAPI 4-python, that almost |
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> certainly will never come to gx86, and some guys are trying to port |
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> the functionality to raw EAPI4, IIRC. |
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python.eclass from python overlay supports EAPI="4". |
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