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On Tuesday, June 07, 2011 18:08:17 Matt Turner wrote: |
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> There _was_ a policy before, but it was unclear about documenting |
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> version removals and arguably didn't require it, so after a few |
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> developers (you've been often mentioned as one of them) refused to |
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> document version removals in the changelog, even after prompting on |
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> gentoo-dev@ the council fixed the policy. |
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i'm aware of the history. it still doesnt validate the logic cited earlier. |
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> Of course the policy doesn't exist simply because you disagree with |
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> others, the policy exists (and was instituted/clarified) because you |
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> wouldn't do something that most developers and users find useful and |
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> thought was already policy, even after being asked. |
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> Why does this have to be such a struggle. It's pretty clear that the |
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> policy is going to be changed again to fix the oversight of silly |
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> situations like I mentioned previously, but there's a near unanimous |
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> agreement that documenting version removals _is_ useful. So, please, |
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> just start doing it. It's really not a lot of work. I'm sure something |
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> more can be done to make this more automated, but until then please |
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> just fucking do it and let's stop all this silliness. |
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seems we gauge things differently as i dont think it's that black & white, |
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although it probably is further in your white than in my black. further, i |
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dont believe people actually get useful information out of this, they just |
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think they do (perception vs reality). when an actual bug arises, the |
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information contained in the ChangeLog doesnt assist in the bug triage/fixing. |
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depgraph broken -> file removed -> reason is irrelevant to the user. |
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maintainer of the package causing the depgraph breakage gets a bug in bugzilla |
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and they address it by either re-adding, or trimming more, or tweaking deps, |
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or something else. so if someone wants a fuzzy security blanket, they can |
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look to autogeneration and then it's no longer my problem. |
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-mike |
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