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From: Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@×××.net>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: [gentoo-dev] Re: License Interpretation
Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 02:03:05
Message-Id: pan.2008.08.21.02.02.42@cox.net
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] License Interpretation by Richard Freeman
1 Richard Freeman <rich0@g.o> posted 48ACBFBC.4070902@g.o,
2 excerpted below, on Wed, 20 Aug 2008 21:07:08 -0400:
3
4 > Gentoo doesn't distribute software (well, except to the degree that we
5 > mirror it).
6
7 It probably doesn't apply in this particular case, but note that Gentoo
8 DOES distribute software in binary form on the LiveCDs, and prepackaged
9 on the package-CDs as well.
10
11 That definitely applies to GPLed works, for instance, and there's a
12 discussion in the archive where it was pointed out that at the time,
13 Gentoo wasn't in compliance, because we weren't ensuring our sources were
14 available for three years, thus missing on the offer-to-provide,
15 good-for-three-years, clause, AND we weren't always satisfying the
16 make-sources-available-at-the-time-of-distribution alternative clause
17 either. (In that, at the time, for conference distribution and the like,
18 we often made available LiveCDs, without corresponding directly available
19 at the time of distribution, copies of the sources used to create them,
20 not just patches, but the complete sources.)
21
22 This came up because it had been applied to Knoppix and etc and had
23 forced them to change their ways, and Gentoo was interested in correcting
24 the problem before it likewise became a legal one for us. Again, note
25 that the license specifies all sources and scripts necessary to build,
26 etc, NOT just distribution applied patches, which is what many were doing
27 and what was catching them off guard. There was also some discussion of
28 removing some of the outdated LiveCDs etc from distribution, so the three-
29 year-clock could start ticking, since until distribution has ceased it is
30 being continuously reset.
31
32 Presumably that has been corrected now, and releng is properly archiving
33 all sources used in the creation of the LiveCDs, etc, for three years
34 after they've ceased distribution. The alternative, as mentioned, would
35 be to ensure that sources are always made available at the time of
36 distribution, including at conferences and the like. In either case,
37 presumably we've stopped distributing historic LiveCDs and etc for which
38 this was not done, so at least the 3-year clock is ticking, even if we
39 can't easily go back and get the required sources should anyone call us
40 on the 3-year thing before it expires.
41
42 --
43 Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs.
44 "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master --
45 and if you use the program, he is your master." Richard Stallman