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From: "Sami Näätänen" <sn.ml@××××××××.com>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Redux: 2004.1 will not include a secure portage.
Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 21:21:42
Message-Id: 200403262258.43442.sn.ml@bayminer.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] Redux: 2004.1 will not include a secure portage. by Paul de Vrieze
1 On Friday 26 March 2004 10:41, Paul de Vrieze wrote:
2 > On Thursday 25 March 2004 15:28, Jesse Nelson wrote:
3 > > this is the biggest weaknes with PKI in the traditional sense.
4 > > Everything comes down to 1 key or 1 set of keys. All trust is
5 > > centralized. Relying on a few ppl to be "secure" with the keys
6 > > isnot good imho.. People are inherantly lazy and thinking htat 99%
7 > > of the time these keys wont be someplace they shouldn't be is using
8 > > Faith as security, and personally i dont jib with that for a
9 > > security model
10 >
11 > I agree, we could easilly have multiple master keys (which would
12 > reduce the risk, however not mitigate it). PGP keysigning however
13 > provides even less provable security. Instead it works by having as
14 > many people as possible verify that you are who you say you are. That
15 > is nice, but the only way that a third party that I don't know is
16 > going to have some kind of trust that I am me is when my key is
17 > signed by one or more keys that are trusted by this third party. To
18 > achieve such a web it is required for keys to have a long lifetime.
19 > Such a long lifetime in gpg sense conflicts with the invalidate by
20 > default approach which requires shortlived keys.
21
22 The master keys could be kept totally outside of the net too so only way
23 to compromise those is to get physical access. Simple script that
24 automatically generates a bunch of new keys when an USB mem card is
25 inserted is pretty easy to make. And because the computer that would do
26 this is in no danger to be exploited through network it really doesn't
27 need to be updated. And if one gets physical access to the machine
28 he/she can also get physical access to the user so it doesn't matter.
29
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