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From: Zac Medico <zmedico@g.o>
Subject: Re: About forcing rebuilds of other packages issue
Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2012 12:31:55 -0700
On 06/08/2012 12:23 PM, Pacho Ramos wrote:
> El vie, 08-06-2012 a las 12:16 -0700, Zac Medico escribió:
>> On 06/08/2012 01:38 AM, Pacho Ramos wrote:
>>> El jue, 07-06-2012 a las 12:33 -0700, Zac Medico escribió:
>>>> On 06/07/2012 12:24 PM, Pacho Ramos wrote:
>>>>> El jue, 07-06-2012 a las 12:09 -0700, Zac Medico escribió:
>>>>>> On 06/07/2012 12:00 PM, Pacho Ramos wrote:
>>>>>>> El jue, 07-06-2012 a las 19:44 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh escribió:
>>>>>>>> On Thu, 07 Jun 2012 20:43:54 +0200
>>>>>>>> Pacho Ramos <pacho@g.o> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> I would prefer, as a workaround, allow reverse deps to RDEPEND on
>>>>>>>>>> glib:2.* instead. That way it would cover more cases when more than
>>>>>>>>>> two slots are available
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Well, per:
>>>>>>>>> http://git.overlays.gentoo.org/gitweb/?p=proj/pms.git;a=commitdiff;h=f9f7729c047300e1924ad768a49c660e12c2f906;hp=b7750e67b4772c1064543defb7df6a556f09807b
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> looks like "*" usage for SLOTs would be allowed :), or I am
>>>>>>>>> misinterpreting it?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It's not a wildcard.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But it looks like a valid usage for cases like glib vs.
>>>>>>> dbus-glib/gobject-introspection I have exposed as example, and also
>>>>>>> allows us to keep "SLOT" over "ABI_SLOT" (at least for this case, not
>>>>>>> sure about others I could be missing now...)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The :* operator doesn't trigger any rebuilds though. Quoting the PMS
>>>>>> patch that you linked:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> * Indicates that any slot value is acceptable. In addition, for runtime
>>>>>> dependencies, indicates that the package will not break if the matched
>>>>>> package is uninstalled and replaced by a different matching package in a
>>>>>> different slot.
>>>>>
>>>>> I mean, use it in conjunction with ":=", one for rebuild and other to
>>>>> indicate any 2.x SLOT fits the "normal" RDEPEND (to not need to
>>>>> periodically update RDEPENDs or need to go back from :SLOT depends to
>>>>> old =category/package-version-* ways)
>>>>>
>>>>> Allowing that, we wouldn't need ABI_SLOT (at least to prevent this issue
>>>>> that arises with using only SLOTs for this)
>>>>
>>>> What you're talking about here is more similar to ABI_SLOT operator deps
>>>> than what was originally intended for SLOT operator deps. In other
>>>> words, anyone who is opposed to ABI_SLOT operator deps is likely to also
>>>> be opposed to your proposal.
>>>
>>> Oh :(, and what is the reason to want to prevent this behavior? Looks
>>> much simpler to me than needing to use ranges for dependencies or
>>> needing to create "compat" packages to hide the problem :|
>>
>> It's close enough to ABI_SLOT that it would make more sense just to use
>> ABI_SLOT because it's more flexible.
> 
> In that case, I think it's clear we need ABI_SLOT ;) The problem is how
> to document it in a way people agree with including it for eapi5 :|

We can just write a specification for this one feature, and ask the
Council to approve it.
-- 
Thanks,
Zac



Replies:
Re: About forcing rebuilds of other packages issue
-- Ciaran McCreesh
Re: About forcing rebuilds of other packages issue
-- Pacho Ramos
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Re: About forcing rebuilds of other packages issue
-- Zac Medico
Re: About forcing rebuilds of other packages issue
-- Ciaran McCreesh
Re: About forcing rebuilds of other packages issue
-- Pacho Ramos
Re: About forcing rebuilds of other packages issue
-- Ciaran McCreesh
Re: About forcing rebuilds of other packages issue
-- Pacho Ramos
Re: About forcing rebuilds of other packages issue
-- Ciaran McCreesh
Re: About forcing rebuilds of other packages issue
-- Pacho Ramos
Re: About forcing rebuilds of other packages issue
-- Ciaran McCreesh
Re: About forcing rebuilds of other packages issue
-- Zac Medico
Re: About forcing rebuilds of other packages issue
-- Brian Harring
Re: About forcing rebuilds of other packages issue
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Re: About forcing rebuilds of other packages issue
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Re: About forcing rebuilds of other packages issue
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Re: About forcing rebuilds of other packages issue
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Re: About forcing rebuilds of other packages issue
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Re: About forcing rebuilds of other packages issue
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