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People who are looking into a problem don't automaticly assume that |
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someone is guilty, or rather, should not. if something ever gets to the |
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stage of this setup, then it most likely is something that can't be |
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resolved by any other ways. Remember, we're talking about something |
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that is pretty much never used, and i can only think of 3 situations |
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that it could have been used in in the nearly 2 years that i've been a |
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dev. |
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The devrel members who first approached me on this think that this is |
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too much red tape for something that 1, is literally probably going to |
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almost never be used 2, it's going to take too long to do anything with, |
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and take too long to get results that are going to make people happy, |
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and 3 most of them agreed to this policy because at the time it looked |
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like the best option. In looking back at it, it's not the best option, |
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so they want something less complicated. |
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The reality is that reguardless of what devrel decides to do people |
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aren't going to be happy. |
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Some of you may or may not think about the 4th reason or care, but i |
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have to think about my team. If the people that you work with so to |
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speak are not happy with the way things are, then things aren't going |
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to go well. In short, and since i suck with words, i'll put it this way. |
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I'm not going to force devrel to do something that half of them don't |
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like. 1, that's bad leadership, and 2. that's just not right. |
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On Tue, 6 Sep 2005, Paul Varner wrote: |
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> Date: Tue, 06 Sep 2005 16:26:32 -0500 |
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> From: Paul Varner <fuzzyray@g.o> |
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> Reply-To: gentoo-devrel@l.g.o |
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> To: gentoo-devrel@l.g.o |
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> Subject: Re: [gentoo-devrel] devrel meeting etc |
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> |
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> On Tue, 2005-09-06 at 15:40 -0500, Deedra Waters wrote: |
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>> How does someone else decide the punishment ensure fair? Truely, i don't |
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>> see that that does not in a situation like this, at any rate. People can |
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>> still appeal the overall decision to the council, there's knowone |
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>> stopping them from it reguardless of wether it's a commitee that makes |
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>> the decision, or 2 seperate branches. |
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> It doesn't ensure 100% fairness as all systems can be abused. What |
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> having it separate does, is allow the people that are deciding the |
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> punishment be as impartial as possible. |
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> |
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> Putting it into context of receiving a speeding ticket. I don't want the |
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> police officer who writes me a ticket for speeding to be the one to |
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> determine that I'm guilty of speeding (he has already made that decision |
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> based upon writing me a ticket). I want a third party who can look at |
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> what I say the facts are and what the police officer says the facts are |
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> to make that decision. The third party helps to ensure that my side of |
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> the story is heard and weighed into consideration. That is what helps to |
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> ensure the fairness. |
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> |
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> Regards, |
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> Paul |
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> |
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Deedra Waters - Gentoo developer relations, accessibility and infrastructure - |
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dmwaters@g.o |
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Gentoo linux: http://www.gentoo.org |
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