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From: Daniel Ostrow <dostrow@g.o>
To: gentoo-devrel@l.g.o
Subject: [gentoo-devrel] [Fwd: Finalizing the returning Dev policy]
Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2006 01:26:27
Message-Id: 1144459519.4701.5.camel@Sabin.anyarch.net
1 Forwarding this to the public list per Mike's request.
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4 From: Daniel Ostrow <dostrow@g.o>
5 Reply-To: dostrow@g.o
6 To: devrel@g.o
7 Subject: Finalizing the returning Dev policy
8 Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2006 20:25:28 -0400
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10 All:
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12 After talking it over with a few people at LWE I'd like to make a few
13 modifications to the returning Dev (quasi-)policy...
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15 Note: Some of this may be in direct opposition to positions I have held
16 on previous discussions of this topic, call me a flip-flopper if you
17 must, all of the below is targeted at returning Devs who have
18 voluntarily retired not towards those who have been suspended of forced
19 into retirement. This is also not due to any particular incident or any
20 particular Dev who wishes to return, it's just something that came up in
21 discussion when a few Dev's had some rare face time.
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23 First off the things I agree with...
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25 1). A retiring Dev should be given a 60 day leave of absence grace
26 period to allow them to account for possible changes of heart. From our
27 experiences in the past Real Life(TM) sometimes gets in the way and a 60
28 day breather can sometimes help people find new time or get themselves
29 reorganized.
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31 2). There is a need for Devs who wish to return to have to take the quiz
32 again. This does well as a good faith showing as well as making sure
33 that the developer in question is up to date with present policy.
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35 Now the things I would like to see changed...
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37 3). Returning Devs should not have to to find a mentor, somehow needing
38 this just feels stupid...
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40 4). The 30 day waiting period seems VERY excessive. I understand that
41 there is a need to discourage this behavior but to be frank there is
42 also good reason to encourage it. I propose that instead of forcing a
43 30day waiting period recruiters should just put the returning Dev at the
44 end of their queue (e.g. not fast track their return by bumping it ahead
45 of other Devs that recruiters are working on). This both alleviates the
46 pressure on the recruiters and encourages good developers to return if
47 mind you s they find they still have time for Gentoo in their lives.
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49 5). If they do ridiculously badly on the quiz from (2) they should be
50 treated as a new Dev needing to wait the 30 day period, but I think we
51 can all assume that they have the wherewithal to find the information
52 needed to update their skills to pass the quiz on their own, requiring
53 any old Dev to find a new mentor for this purpose is insulting, likewise
54 the probationary period following devship is also insulting, we trusted
55 them with our tree once after all.
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57 I'd like to hear constructive comments on this. Especially from those
58 that do recruiting now to know if this is a workable and acceptable
59 policy change. I'd like to get this into an official doc as well so we
60 don't have to keep looking back at old e-mail threads as a policy
61 reference.
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63 Thanks,
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65 --Dan
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