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From: Grant Goodyear <g2boojum@g.o>
Subject: Re: RFC: etiquette enforcment
Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 15:45:37 -0500
Mike Doty wrote: [Thu May 18 2006, 02:41:03PM CDT]
> The flamewars on public communication channels is out of hand.  it's
> having an negative effect in many parts of gentoo, even those that are
> not directly affected by the said war.  This is something that urgently
> needs to be addressed.

I disagree.  I don't see a flamewar, but a spirited discussion.  As for
it having a negative effect "in many parts of gentoo", perhaps such a
blanket statement deserves some evidence?  Which areas?  How many is

> So, here is my proposal.  I hope it's not the only one.

Fair enough, I'll add mine: do nothing other than urge politeness and do
one's utmost to separate vitriol and opinion from fact.

> creation of a etiquette enforcement group.  This group should be a
> subproject of devrel, but should not be made up of devrel members.  I
> say this because the actions and powers of this group need to be
> separated from devrel.

Just as a logical point, exactly what authority does devrel have over
non-devs?  Seems like the wrong project to me.  Perhaps userrel?

That aside, I think censoring is unwise, and I certainly won't support
it.  Of course, I have no actual power, but I'll argue vociferously
against any such plan.  There's a marked difference between automated
spamming of a mailing list (which, of course, would result in access
being suspended) and somebody being annoying.

I'm not a wholly unreasonable person, I don't think, and I disagree that
things are out of hand.  Were your proposal in effect, we would be
censoring on cases where reasonable people disagree.  I think that's far
too low a bar to set.

Grant Goodyear	
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RFC: etiquette enforcment
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