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From: amne@g.o
To: gentoo-devrel@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-devrel] Proposal of Change to the Gentoo User Relations Project
Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2006 17:28:52
Message-Id: 20060302172909.GA27260@superlupo.rechner
In Reply to: [gentoo-devrel] Proposal of Change to the Gentoo User Relations Project by Christel Dahlskjaer
1 On Thu, Mar 02, 2006 at 04:21:25PM +0000, Christel Dahlskjaer wrote:
2 > 1. Bugzilla - Create a Bug Writing How-to to provide users with a
3 > guideline for how to write bug reports, to ease the workload
4 > for the developers and also to ensure that the users include
5 > sufficient information with their bug report.
6 > 2. Bugzilla - Write and make available guidelines for how
7 > to respond to a bug report in a useful manner. Ensure that
8 > developers have the opportunity to look up how "it should be
9 > done" should they feel unsure.
10
11 I like those two ideas, especially #1. This should also be something
12 that doesn't become too big of an effort (depending how much you
13 intend to write of course).
14
15 > * Complaints - Review and rewrite the current complaints
16 > procedure to ensure that users will find User Relations
17 > approachable and thus will feel able to file
18 > complaints if necessary. Ensure that a problem is always
19 > looked at from both sides, and if the problem cannot be solved
20 > by User Relations have a procedure in place for escalating to
21 > an ombudsman.
22
23 We've had complaints from users that were banned from some #gentoo*
24 channel on the forums every now and then. They were usually handled by
25 the developers involved and/or devrel members. Having someone to
26 redirect them to (the forum isn't exactly the right place for this)
27 would be good, especially if the ban was not legit (which never was
28 the case, they usually had simply disregarded the guidelines of the
29 channels they were banned from).
30 Same thing also goes for forum bans, some banned users were quite
31 disagreeing about being banned, a second independent instance to turn
32 the user to for further evalution may be useful and help cutting down
33 conspiracy theories.
34
35 > * Stress - Ensure that there is an understanding of how
36 > overwork/stress can affect the way we communicate with others.
37 > Ensure there is a procedure in place for backup should the
38 > need arise for a developer to not deal with users directly for
39 > one reason or another. Ensure developers have the option to
40 > "take time out" when needed. Ensure that users are dealt with
41 > in an effective and friendly manner so not to cause any
42 > unnecessary trauma for users.
43
44 Basically, if some developer is overworked, this is a problem that
45 should be sorted out in the first place. Apart from that, there may be
46 situations where this may could be useful.
47
48 > * Recruitment - Work alongside Developer Relations to improve
49 > the recruitment process, focusing on the process for reinstating
50 > a returning developer to start with.
51
52 To be honest, i don't exactly understand how returning devs fall into
53 user relations (because they are currently users?), but i guess
54 helping out is always a good thing. Personally i probably wouldn't put
55 that under user-rel.
56
57 > * User Relations - Review User Relations' role and find
58 > other ways of improving Gentoo User Relations. Ensure that
59 > User Relations are proactive rather than reactive and have a
60 > good strong presence within the user community. Continously
61 > encourage and listen to feedback from users and developers in
62 > order to better understand the needs of users and developers,
63 > and effectively cater to them.
64
65 If you have no one to talk to, talk to Christel. :-)
66 I guess this could become a full time job for more than one person as
67 there are lots of users voicing ideas, criticism etc everywhere on
68 irc, forums and mailing lists. Maybe a feedback guide telling them how
69 to bring their feedback into a form that actually gets read by devs
70 would be a good idea (e.g.: "Devs don't read much on the forums, write
71 a nice summary and send it to some mailing list.", "This is a clear
72 bug, please file a bug report").
73
74 cheers,
75 Wernfried
76
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78 Wernfried Haas (amne) - amne at gentoo dot org
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