On Wed, 2005-11-09 at 20:26 +0100, Jan Kundrát wrote:
> On Wednesday 09 of November 2005 20:20 Arun Raghavan wrote:
> > Call me an idealist, but this sounds too much like a "guilty until
> > proven innocent" thing. I'm a "normal" Gentoo user, and had absolutely
> > no trouble following the stage1 instructions. Let's leave the "the
> > user is dumb" assumptions to Microsoft.
> 
> Problem is not about our users, problem is that the newbies shouldn't be 
> forced to solve Portage tree issues during installation.

Correct.

Look at bug #88777 as an example.  Look at bug #39318 of another.

These are fundamental issues with portage that are very slow to resolve.
Why should our users be forced to duplicate the work of a dedicated
team, whose purpose is to give good, working release materials that
already resolve or work around these bugs?

> > Instead, a prominent explamnation and warning about what doing
> > so-and-so would entail would be good.
> 
> Please re-read the entire thread and swift's blog for reasons we're going to 
> deprecate stage1/2 installation.

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