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Subject: Re: [gentoo-doc] Proposal: remove 'last updated' date from rendered page
Date: Wed, 03 Sep 2008 15:49:50
Message-Id: 48BEB223.8050002@tampabay.rr.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-doc] Proposal: remove 'last updated' date from rendered page by "Jan Kundrát"
1 Jan Kundrát wrote:
2 > Camille Huot wrote:
3 >> As a workaround, I would suggest to bump the date when an old document
4 >> has been checked, tested and certified with current material.
5
6 > If I were yoswink, I'd kill you for such a change.
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8
9 Well this all depends on your viewpoint. If you want a set of
10 documents, that folks with deep gentoo experience can use,
11 then stay the coarse. If you (we being the larger gentoo community
12 including noobs, novices and nerds) then the last date of
13 checking or updating is fundamentally important. We all know the
14 internet is full of outdated and erroneous information.
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16 I find Camile's points very consistent with what the average user or
17 noob will need. I would also 'simplify' the process, (see touch below)
18 So ask yourself who do the documents need
19 to be focused on, the gentoo elite, or the average gentoo
20 hack....?
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23 It should not be that hard (internally) to track the last date
24 the file was touched using 'touch' or whatever mechanism floats
25 your boat, to provide the average user some comfort as to the
26 usability, related to the age of the last check for accuracy the
27 doc has undergone. If we use the last date the doc was 'touch-ed' be
28 one of the gentoo elite, then the mechanism is simple. Surely this
29 sort of mechanism would be heralded
30 as a gentoo point of excellence among a sea of mediocre distros.
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32 I would suggest keeping the mechanism for updating the date, simple
33 as in the use of 'touch' or such simple means. If you make it
34 elaborate and complex, then it will be a nightmare. Not changing
35 the date, except for a blue moon occurrence, instills doubt
36 and those confused do not posses the skills of accurate document
37 differentiation. If they did, they would not need the document
38 to resolve their ignorance of the particular issue which they
39 seek help, guidance or just a cookbook set of command examples.
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42 On another note, I think what is needed is something simple and bold
43 at the top of the official gentoo docs that clearly let folks know
44 that the doc is an official gentoo maintained doc. If you google for
45 help you get all sorts of gentoo-ish looking docs and the average
46 user may not know how to distinguish the official (maintained docs)
47 from the rest. My thoughts here are some sort of 'gentoo-certified'
48 symbol that is hyperlinked to a page that delineates (clearly
49 explains) the nature of the officially maintained docs. Maybe the
50 symbol could be Dali-ish artistic GC for Gentoo Certified.
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52
53 just random thoughts, nothing that should incite folks to anger
54 (hopefully)
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57 James

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