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From: Chris Gianelloni <wolf31o2@g.o>
To: gentoo-doc@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-doc] Stage1/2 deprecation from Gentoo Handbook
Date: Mon, 07 Nov 2005 16:20:37
Message-Id: 1131373644.11834.20.camel@cgianelloni.nuvox.net
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-doc] Stage1/2 deprecation from Gentoo Handbook by Flammie Pirinen
1 On Sun, 2005-11-06 at 16:17 +0200, Flammie Pirinen wrote:
2 > 2005-11-06, Sven Vermeulen sanoi, jotta:
3 >
4 > > The Gentoo Release Engineering team is pushing us to remove stage1 and
5 > > stage2 references from the Gentoo Handbook. They are getting too many
6 > > errors because the user is not able to fully comprehend the
7 > > implications of a stage1 or stage2 installation.
8 >
9 > Hmm, I'd like it, if we also (re)moved stage1 and stage2 from visible
10 > directory, and renamed stage3 to something more appropriate by the
11 > 2006.0. I mean, it will probably be confusing for a new user if the
12 > guide just says "Oh, we have this things that say 1 and 2 in the
13 > directory, but please ignore them and start from 3, because 1 and 2 are
14 > only for devs, k?" And it won't help, that old users will most likely
15 > continue to advice for stage 1 in so many support channels.
16
17 I'm not sure if the removal of stages 1 and 2 will happen in time for
18 2006.0, simply because it is a *very* heated issue and one that will
19 take some serious politics to get enacted.
20
21 I guarantee that I won't be a popular guy. *grin*
22
23 If it were up to me, I would not have stage1 or stage2 on the mirrors,
24 at all. I would probably have a stage1 tarball on bittorrent, simply
25 because there are uses for a stage1 tarball, just not uses many people
26 consider. For example, supporting a new platform. It isn't quite as
27 useful for normal installations, though.
28
29 --
30 Chris Gianelloni
31 Release Engineering - Strategic Lead
32 x86 Architecture Team
33 Games - Developer
34 Gentoo Linux

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Re: [gentoo-doc] Stage1/2 deprecation from Gentoo Handbook Gregorio Guidi <greg_g@g.o>