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From: Sven Vermeulen <swift@g.o>
To: gentoo-doc@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-doc] [RFC] Marking unmaintained documents
Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2005 19:51:48
Message-Id: 20050909165046.GA9727@gentoo.org
In Reply to: [gentoo-doc] [RFC] Marking unmaintained documents by "Jan Kundrát"
1 On Thu, Sep 08, 2005 at 06:56:26PM +0200, Jan Kundrát wrote:
2 > Currently we have quite a lot of "unsupported"/"invalid"/"unmaintained"
3 > documents for one of these reasons:
4 >
5 > a) Third party article
6
7 We "can" fix those, but you don't see any news site "fix" their news items
8 after a year... they are kept online as a reference. You might want to write
9 a new article about the same subject but more accurate - having the old
10 article at your disposal can be very interesting.
11
12 > b) Older Handbook
13
14 Although I can see why you want the chapters of the older handbooks "marked"
15 as out-dated, some people still use the older handbooks, especially if they
16 have older release media and want a networkless installation.
17
18 But then again, that's not the point :) Personally, I don't think we need
19 anything red on those handbooks - I would refer to the people's common sense
20 when they are reading the 2004.3 handbook :)
21
22 > c) Translation in language which is not officially supported
23
24 We don't link that language; the documents are made available if you know
25 the URI (which is of course not difficult to grasp). Perhaps we can disable
26 viewing it entirely unless some variable is set (?override=1) but I don't
27 think we should.
28
29 Each document on our web site is "official" in the sense that either we or a
30 different Gentoo project is in charge of it. For our documents, this means
31 that users can post bugreports on the document if they want or even send us
32 fixes.
33
34 With this in mind, having the outdated documents online keeps the bug report
35 flow coming in - which is a good thing. It has happened in the past that a
36 guide that was once unmaintained and outdated got updated and is now
37 accurate and a pleasure to read.
38
39 Yes, I know you want something to tell the users "Beware, this document
40 might contain wrong information" but then again, how would you know the
41 document gives wrong directives to the user? An old hardware-related guide
42 might still be perfectly valid - just not updated. Or a very recent guide
43 can contain erroneous commands while it is still actively maintained.
44
45 Imo, as long as there is no AI that can inform us about the malicious
46 content of a document, we can't easily mark such documents as "outdated" or
47 "erroneous". I have made a small attempt by allowing us to mark a specific
48 bug as a showstopper in metadoc - as a result, the document will be unlinked
49 from the index page. This can be extended by adding-in a <warn> on top of
50 the document, but you'll have to fight Xavier with this as this results in
51 another few queries of metadoc and such and makes the XSL again more
52 obscure.
53
54 Wkr,
55 Sven Vermeulen
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Re: [gentoo-doc] [RFC] Marking unmaintained documents "Jan Kundrát" <jkt@g.o>