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From: Xavier Neys <neysx@g.o>
To: gentoo-doc@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-doc] Wiki, Take #whatever
Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2008 17:30:18
Message-Id: 4919C120.1010207@gentoo.org
In Reply to: [gentoo-doc] Wiki, Take #whatever by Josh Saddler
1 Josh Saddler wrote:
2 > Hey again. So there's some discussion (again) on starting up an official
3 > Gentoo wiki. Official meaning it's hosted on our infrastructure; e.g.
4 > wiki.gentoo.org. This time the discussion is coming from our fellow
5 > developers and infra overlords.
6
7 If infra is willing to host it, why not, as long as they keep *all* the fun to
8 themselves.
9 Don't expect GDP to be involved.
10
11 > I know that the GDP discussed this any number of times on this list, and
12 > some of us (most notably myself and neysx) have discussed it on the
13 > forums, with occasional feedback from other developers.
14 >
15 > However, it's been quite awhile since the last time we (the GDP) talked
16 > it over. Given our current issues of manpower and time (see
17 > archives.gentoo.org for commit totals), perhaps a wiki could solve some
18 > issues?
19 >
20 > The classic problems are:
21 > 1) Who has access
22
23 Anyone, it's a wiki
24
25 > 2) Who reports faulty articles
26
27 Anyone, it's a wiki
28
29 > 3) Who fixes them
30
31 Anyone, it's a wiki
32
33 > 4) Who verifies the article is correct
34
35 Anyone, it's a wiki
36
37 > 5) ???
38
39 me too.
40
41 > 6) Profit
42
43 Plenty of wor^Wfun for volunteers.
44
45 > So, I'd like to hear what you think. Should we have a wiki? Why or why
46 > not? If so, for once, does anyone have some *sane* ways to admin and
47 > moderate such a wiki?
48
49 Just let it live its wiki life.
50
51 Please let's make sure it is 'officially *hosted*' and it clearly states its
52 content is user-driven and not sanctioned in any way by Gentoo.
53
54 Use a license that would allow some content to be reused in our docs, you
55 never know, maybe some articles might be worth it.
56 gentoo-wiki.com used to use GFDL license (Public Domain was also mentioned, so
57 no one knows what license people thought they were contributing under).
58 When pointed out to that fact, they blanket relicensed everything under Public
59 Domain. Now they use CC-BY-NC-SA. How would we credit everyone if any article
60 was to be reused?
61
62 > There's no question that having a properly-administered wiki can be a
63 > powerful asset. Look at Ubuntu, Debian, Arch, the Xfce wiki, etc. What
64 > about Gentoo?
65 >
66 > Halcyon has brought it up again on https://bugs.gentoo.org/75855, but
67 > BEFORE I/we go over there and weigh in, let's hash it out here on our
68 > list. :)
69
70 Actually, there's no reason it should be discussed here. Take it to the forums
71 where the audience is more important. wiki.gentoo.org would be a user-driven
72 resource, just like the forums are, and I think many users would like the idea.
73
74 My $0.0251120
75
76
77 Wkr,
78 --
79 / Xavier Neys
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81 /
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Re: [gentoo-doc] Wiki, Take #whatever Josh Saddler <nightmorph@g.o>