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On 04/05/11 22:39, Christopher Friedt wrote: |
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> Hi James, |
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> On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 7:40 PM, wireless <wireless@×××××××××××.com> wrote: |
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>> Apologies for my ignorances. This link went a long |
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>> way to present what is bionic libc: |
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>> http://codingrelic.geekhold.com/2008/11/six-million-dollar-libc.html |
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> I've read that page too... not really sure what you're saying though. |
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I'm not up to speed on Android et. al...... |
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I do like the "smallness" of what bionic purports to do. Linux |
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(kernel, kde/gnome, etc etc) are well on the way to IBM/doz |
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bloat-wear, imho. So I do anticipate a return to the basics, |
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(aka smallness)..... |
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> You could say I'm leaning toward the "linux without politics" usage |
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> model. It's straight-forward to patch bionic to use /etc/resolv.conf, |
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> and add crypt routines as well as /etc/passwd & /etc/group usage. That |
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> can be done with bsd licensed code. |
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Folks should be aware of licenses and choose according to their goals |
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and needs. I've got "no religion" when it comes to licenses. Personally |
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I wish all licenses, patents and politics would just go away... |
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After all, they are just *noise* imho. But noise is a fact of |
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life so we must deal with it, each in our own (best) way. |
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> BSD userland politics aside, I wonder what the typical steps would be |
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> to 'port' gentoo over to a bionic-based libc. Something like the |
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> following? |
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BSD has a fundamental flaw, imho. Once you free up the license |
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restrictions, much of what is innovated is rarely shared to put back |
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into the community. I understand folks need to make a few dollars, as a |
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corporation some of that is necessary, but the not contributing back |
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snobbishness of BSD is a long, jaded history (Eric and Sendmail as an |
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example). |
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Want another example? OK OAR (was a .org) was a technical governmental |
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body that developed RTEMS: |
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RTEMS |
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Now we only find |
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http://www.rtems.com/ |
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Yet google is funding RTEMS for summer of code....... |
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(Strange world, huh?) If you know any college kids |
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with your tendencies, then SOC at RTEMS would be |
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keen. Suggest a port/marriage to embedded Gentoo. |
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Make yourself *famous*! |
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The NSA actually funded openbsd for a while and still finds "the rat" |
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to be quite brilliant and entertaining...... |
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http://boingboing.net/2010/12/15/rumors-of-an-fbi-bac.html |
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Personally, |
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I do not find the "spoofs" to be threatening at all; it's the |
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politicians with dark_commercial_threads that worry me; a bunch |
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of "stupid_whores" that are in charge of decision making? Then when |
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they do reach out to someone technical, it's some old (technically |
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famous) fart that is useless and has lost his/her salt! They quickly |
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sell out for a few dollars because they are getting old and worry |
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about retirement and what others think about them. |
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America, has few young lions any more, because our judicially |
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dominatrix leadership is pushing agendas where young lions are quickly |
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neutered and marginalized, again and again and again, imho. |
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What BSD needs is for the government (US) to fund research and |
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development and support for BSD, much like google funds Linux |
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via the Summer of Code. But as soon as they appoint some tainted |
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agency, with dark connections to the commercial world, much get's |
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tainted, imho. A young lion needs to emerge. |
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After all BSD is American, from Berkeley (bunch of hippies) |
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and there are lots of brilliant, unemployed college kids floating |
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around.....(certainly not fact, just my opinion). So that's why I |
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left BSD for Linux; more sharing, support and friendship; Some would |
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say that sense of "community" is because of the gpl licenses..... |
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> 1) manually build a bionic cross-toolchain |
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> 2) do some basic verification with the cross-toolchain (static exe, |
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> exe that uses .so, .so, etc) |
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> 3) build a native toolchain with the cross-toolchain, record build |
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> steps / patches along the way |
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> 4) manually bootstrap gentoo natively, record build steps / patches |
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> along the way |
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> 5) set up overlays: portage, crossdev, bionic, gcc, etc |
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Ah grasshopper, you have *GROWN*! I shall anticipate enjoying |
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the stanza's of your music.... |
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peace, |
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James |