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From: momentics <momentics@×××××.com>
To: gentoo-embedded@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-embedded] Hard Real Time Systems with Gentoo?
Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2007 02:39:49
Message-Id: 81d7574a0701131837p79e8cfaekfdadbbfa4337bced@mail.gmail.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-embedded] Hard Real Time Systems with Gentoo? by wireless
1 > > So, we're considering some system that (we think so here) can
2 > > guarantee meeting its deadlines with a given (by the operator) probability.
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4 > You cannot prove determism with statistics.
5 > Determinism can only be proven be defining, discovering,
6 > characterizing and testing each and ever possible state AND
7 > transition.
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9 What would you say if our considered system, say, can mathematically
10 achieve this (please see below, next statement)
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13 > > We imply here that true HRT is impossible in reality and any single
14 > > system that exists in the word meets hard real-time requirements with
15 > > some probability. If it does not – HRT speaks of system failure.
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17 > Ah, how you are 'getting it'. YES, YES, YES, I absolutely agree
18 > with this statement!
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20 That's a first step we must to achieve in our discussion :).
21 I'm aware that you think so. I'm also thinking so. But we were wrongly
22 messed up with fault tolerance before… We know now, that
23 [any HRT system CAN miss its deadlines when in a faulty state] –
24 that's a statement.
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26 Then, lets take a look at our considered system as of blackbox to the
27 external world. The world knows nothing of its internals, state
28 machines, transitions, and languages. The world is just looking at the
29 system in terms of request-responses and timing constrains, it is
30 expecting.
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32 Say, the world thinks of the system must to work for it with some
33 predictable reliability. Please note, missed deadlines are just faults
34 here.
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36 If we can mathematically prove the system is reliable not worse than
37 expected reliability, may we think it is HRT?
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