Gentoo Archives: gentoo-embedded

From: Manuel Lauss <manuel.lauss@××××××××××.com>
To: gentoo-embedded@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-embedded] SATA on Pandaboard?
Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2010 11:04:58
Message-Id: AANLkTi=9KpT7bxh0r4H4QJnsOEJg77V6h+cha=sWSpxw@mail.gmail.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-embedded] SATA on Pandaboard? by Kfir Lavi
1 On Sat, Dec 25, 2010 at 10:07 AM, Kfir Lavi <lavi.kfir@×××××.com> wrote:
2 >
3 >
4 > On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 3:19 AM, David Ford <david@×××××××××.org> wrote:
5 >>
6 >> On 12/07/10 19:34, wireless wrote:
7 >> > [...
8 >> > You've got to be kidding me? I posted on Gentoo user a few
9 >> > days ago (NOV 8th) about a netbook. The resounding number
10 >> > one issue is avoid SSD and get a mechanical HD!
11 >> > <from a pretty smart person>
12 >> > "Those SSDs are shite. Get a mechanical drive. 8G is also
13 >> > not enough and the write performance is pathetic. "
14 >>
15 >> from another pretty smart person - and an empirical relationship.  i have
16 >> a dell w/ an SSD drive.  have had it for a year now.  it goes -everywhere-
17 >> with me, daily.  physically, it's been dropped, kicked, whacked, you name
18 >> it.  the SSD drive is still cruising along nicely.  for r/w workload, i run
19 >> gentoo on it and do nightly ~x86 updates.  so the only rest it gets is the
20 >> short period between finishing nightly updates and when i grab it and hit
21 >> the road.  the only time it gets shut off is if i happen to run out of
22 >> battery every few months.
23 >>
24 >> it's not the same as a 15K drive, but then, it's not a 15K drive.  unless
25 >> you want to pay really outlandish prices, you won't find that type of speed
26 >> on a laptop.  it would eat batteries like bot snacks.
27 >>
28 >> the really smart thing is to really know what sort of hardware you
29 >> get/have, and understand how to pick $better kernel driver vs.
30 >> $generic_fallback thingie.  you can't expect even a performance drive to
31 >> operate smashingly if you're loading the generic
32 >> i-can-just-barely-make-it-work driver :)
33 >>
34 >>
35 >
36 > I feel I need to share my SSD data ;-)
37 > I have a Lenovo x200 laptop with 60GB ssd from OCZ.
38 >
39 > $ hdparm -tT /dev/sda
40 >
41 > /dev/sda:
42 >  Timing cached reads:   3746 MB in  2.00 seconds = 1874.96 MB/sec
43 >  Timing buffered disk reads:  340 MB in  3.02 seconds = 112.67 MB/sec
44 >
45 > I have a board with SD card that will perform 22 MB/sec. This is a ~5 fold
46 > difference.
47 >
48 > So it seems to me (I know it's not a double blind test), from my little
49 > experience, that SD is not fast as SSD.
50 > (please correct me if I'm wrong here).
51
52 Of course not: The SD electrical interface is much simpler, cheaper,
53 and the protocol run over it is inefficient. It was not initially designed
54 for high speed operation, but cheap implementation.
55
56 Manuel