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From: Ed W <lists@××××××××××.com>
To: gentoo-embedded@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-embedded] Wind River Linux experience
Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2011 15:03:57
Message-Id: 4D933A52.8090701@wildgooses.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-embedded] Wind River Linux experience by Martin Gysel
1 On 25/03/2011 09:01, Martin Gysel wrote:
2 > Hi
3 >
4 > Am 24.03.2011 14:13, schrieb Ed W:
5 >> I use a bit of a blend and recently I have started trying to use
6 >> /etc/portage/patches/cat/pkg (badly documented) as a way to hook into
7 >> ebuilds without having to patch every version, forever, and lightly
8 >> tweak the install.
9 >
10 > what type of patches belongs there? are this patches to the ebuild
11 > itself or patches which get applied in ${S} automatically (like
12 > epatch_user).
13 > So if you already have experience with it and you say it's badly
14 > documented, can you share your experience?
15
16 Well, you can only use /patches/ for certain well behaved ebuilds that
17 run certain ebuild functions (forgotten the specifics, check the docs?).
18 So this limits it's usefulness generally
19
20 Additionally you can do something somewhat similar using pre_/post_
21 hooks in portage/env/...
22
23 Both methods feel a bit clumsy to me, and I think they should mainly be
24 used for patches/fixes which you expect to apply on a long term basis
25 and don't expect to evolve particularly on a version to version basis.
26 eg patches to default configs/scripts or patches to relatively stable
27 chunks of code that upstream is unlikely to change
28
29 I think for bug fixes or stuff which is expected to change imminently,
30 or stuff which is specific to a code version then it's much neater to
31 use a modified ebuild in some local portage tree
32
33 The big negative on the /env/ and /patches/ method is that they aren't
34 self documenting, unlike a local portage tree which is shown explicitly
35 in the output of emerge. I think this is the big dictator which guides
36 when it's appropriate to be used?
37
38
39 I also use a file overlay tree as the final step of my build process.
40 This leaves a big separation between the files and the packages they
41 came from. Also if it's a small change from a default config then it's
42 not self documenting (consider that upstream makes a large change - how
43 to patch that change in our overlay). Hence I prefer to use patches
44 where possible, keeps it closer to the package, and keeps it self
45 documenting. The overlay is most useful therefore for large config
46 deviations (usually specific to the final environment)
47
48
49 Good luck
50
51 Ed W