Gentoo Archives: gentoo-embedded

From: "Peter S. Mazinger" <ps.m@×××.net>
To: Chris PeBenito <pebenito@g.o>
Cc: david@×××××××××.com, AJ Armstrong <aja@g.o>, Embedded Gentoo Mail List <gentoo-embedded@g.o>
Subject: Re: [gentoo-embedded] base-layout lite
Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2003 17:59:02
Message-Id: Pine.LNX.4.44.0312090051390.3116-100000@lnx.bridge.net
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-embedded] base-layout lite by Chris PeBenito
1 On Sun, 7 Dec 2003, Chris PeBenito wrote:
2
3 > On Tue, 2003-12-02 at 13:08, david@×××××××××.com wrote:
4 > > On Tue, Dec 02, 2003 at 12:04:35PM -0700, AJ Armstrong wrote:
5 > > > On 2 Dec 2003 11:44, david@×××××××××.com emitted:
6 > > >
7 > > > > ex: do we really need 500 lines of bash sourced so we can have colored
8 > > > > [ OK ]
9 > > > > I don't think this is really necessary.
10 > > >
11 > > > Not only is it unnecessary, but I think it is _wrong_ if the code is running
12 > > > in an embedded environment. I think we should be starting with what is
13 > > > absolutely required for a system to boot as the baselayout - no frills, no
14 > > > pretification. Those could perhaps be build as optional ebuilds that can be
15 > > > emerged _after_ baselayout for those whose target platforms can support them.
16 >
17 > I agree with this. I'm thinking that baselayout-lite would probably
18 > just have one init script, rc.sysinit or the like. There's not very
19 > many systems that would have/need additional runlevels. So a good place
20 > might be to extract stuff out of /sbin/rc, and other regular baselayout
21 > scripts and merge into one script.
22 >
23 > Solar has also suggested looking at the buildroot baselayout, but I have
24 > been bogged down by my classwork, so I haven't looked yet.
25 >
26 > > Well I'm not sure where to draw the line...
27 > > do we want to still have /var/run PID functionality for example ? Or should we
28 > > leave that up to the embedded user... it could most likely be
29 > > implemented in a few lines of bash.
30 > >
31 > > or maybe some sort of busybox like funcitonality with symlinks... i.e.
32 > >
33 > > /etc/init.d/busyinit
34 > > /etc/init.d/network -> /etc/init.d/busyinit
35 >
36 > This is another good idea :) Especially since busybox is most likely
37 > going to get heavy use. /var/run may or not be around; with something
38 > real simple, without the classic /etc/init.d services, it probably
39 > doesn't need to.
40
41 Consider also, that busybox includes minit (another init), better as the
42 default init, has dependency checking between services, parallel startup
43 of services, as I understand it. Wach service has it's own subdirectory
44 where the config/dependency files can be placed
45
46 To integrate it with a full-blown SysVinit system each service could
47 provide both configs, a sysvinit startup script, and a, let's say minit
48 one.
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50 Peter
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