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From: Mike Frysinger <vapier@g.o>
To: gentoo-embedded@l.g.o
Cc: Enrico Weigelt <weigelt@×××××.de>
Subject: Re: [gentoo-embedded] Is a compilation depend on the running kernel?
Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2010 18:06:23
Message-Id: 201012311256.56951.vapier@gentoo.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-embedded] Is a compilation depend on the running kernel? by Enrico Weigelt
1 On Friday, December 31, 2010 11:16:41 Enrico Weigelt wrote:
2 > * Mike Frysinger <vapier@g.o> schrieb:
3 > > On Thursday, December 30, 2010 01:46:34 Enrico Weigelt wrote:
4 > > > Little example, where I'm working on right now: coreutils and gnulib.
5 > > > Imagine, these jerks not just collected hundreds of (sometimes really
6 > > > broken) tests and workarounds instead of fixing the source - they
7 > > > also collected them in another "package" called gnulib, which gets
8 > > > fetched via git (from the current head instead of some release tag!)
9 > > > and _copied_ into the coreutils source tree by some obscure
10 > > > "bootstrap" script. Wow, self-modifying code. Violating all rules
11 > > > of the very first semester in software engineering ;-o
12 > >
13 > > yeah, once you start fixing Microsoft's runtime library and Solaris' C
14 > > library and old UNIX systems whose owners long died and ........, feel
15 > > free to get gnulib obsoleted. but until that happens, stop living in an
16 > > unrealistic world. gnulib exists for a very real reason and is
17 > > extremely useful to many many people.
18 >
19 > You didn't get my point. I was talking about the way of copying
20 > in (parts of) gnulib into other package's source tree in an
21 > unpredicable way, directly within the build process.
22
23 i'm guessing you've never actually used gnulib and thus know little about how
24 it works. importation of it isnt "unpredictable" at all. the developer doing
25 the import closely controls what functions exactly they wish to import.
26
27 > The clean way (tm) would be making it a real library
28
29 again, clearly you dont follow anything about gnulib. they're already working
30 on an actual shared library now called libposix.
31
32 > I'm currently in the process of doing exactly that.
33
34 i'm sure that will totally see real use and isnt a complete waste of time
35 -mike

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