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From: Ulrich Plate <plate@g.o>
To: gentoo-gwn@××××××××××××.org
Subject: [gentoo-gwn] Gentoo Weekly Newsletter 14 March 2005
Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 01:46:43
Message-Id: 20050315025456.4969b201.plate@gentoo.org
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2 Gentoo Weekly Newsletter
3 http://www.gentoo.org/news/en/gwn/current.xml
4 This is the Gentoo Weekly Newsletter for the week of 14 March 2005.
5 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
6
7 ==============
8 1. Gentoo News
9 ==============
10
11 Planet Gentoo launched
12 ----------------------
13
14 Planet Gentoo[1] has been launched last week, a Planet[2]-driven website
15 that aggregates all Gentoo-related entries from the weblogs of over 50
16 contributing developers. The new resource is intended to improve
17 communication between the user and developer communities, and enhance
18 communication internally between developers.
19 1. http://planet.gentoo.org
20 2. http://www.planetplanet.org/
21
22 Contributing developers write articles to their weblogs, which will then
23 automatically be published on Planet Gentoo, providing a good overview of
24 what is being developed and where things are going. At time of launch, the
25 Planet has over 50 contributing developers, and will grow further as more
26 and more developers add their feeds to the list of those already
27 available.
28
29 Planet Gentoo started life as an enhancement proposal[3]. Following an
30 extensive testing phase, it is now buzzing with activity. All official
31 Gentoo developers qualify for inclusion of their feed, provided it's in
32 English and either entirely about Gentoo matters, or allowing for
33 categorized feeds that can be limited to those. Developers who haven't
34 been listed yet can get set up by sending an email to Daniel Drake, even
35 if they don't have a blog of their own yet: A weblog to start with can be
36 provided to those who need one.
37 3. http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/glep/glep-0030.html
38
39 Gentoo UK Conference
40 --------------------
41
42 Big turnout for the Gentoo UK conference last Saturday: around 40 Gentoo
43 developers and users had flocked to the University of Salford (near
44 Manchester) to attend this year's event, organized for the second time in
45 a row by Reuben Finch[4] and Stuart Herbert[5]. Presentations included
46 talks by Rob Holland[6] about code auditing, Daniel Drake[7] on the kernel
47 and user-relation projects, Tom Martin[8] with his successful attempt at
48 showing how to get the most out of a command line interface (and making
49 zsh a little more popular), and guest speakers Harry Moyes of the
50 Manchester Wireless network initiative[9], and Gareth Bult and his Flash
51 Linux project[10] presentation rounded off a densely packed, mostly
52 technical, and highly enjoyable presentation track. But bringing
53 developers together under real life conditions has other advantages, too:
54 Tim Yamin[11]and Daniel Drake sat and worked through a few genkernel
55 embellishments, and Stephen Bennett[12] got a chance to demonstrate
56 Gentoo/FreeBSD with the Gentoo init script system to some fellow devs.
57 Photos were unavailable at the time of writing, but the organizers have
58 promised to edit a video of the event. Thanks a lot to the sponsors of the
59 conference, the London Internet Exchange (LINX)[13] and the University of
60 Salford[14], for making it possible to offer this conference free for all!
61 And since after the show is in fact before the show, plans for the 2006
62 edition of the Gentoo UK conference are already under way.
63 4. reuben.finch@××××××××××.com
64 5. stuart@g.o
65 6. tigger@g.o
66 7. dsd@g.o
67 8. slarti@g.o
68 9. http://www.manchesterwireless.net
69 10. http://www.gentoo.org/news/en/gwn/20041206-newsletter.xml#doc_chap2
70 11. plasmaroo@g.o
71 12. spb@g.o
72 13. http://www.linx.net/
73 14. http://www.salford.ac.uk/
74
75 Note: Collated from blog entries by Daniel Drake, Tom Martin and Marcus D.
76 Hanwell.
77
78 Gentoo preloaded: Pegasos Open Desktop Workstation sale begins
79 --------------------------------------------------------------
80
81 A few days later than the date announced in the GWN[15], Genesi's ODW with
82 Gentoo installed is now available for online ordering. After receiving a
83 lot of expressions of interest to the temporary mail address, Gentoo has
84 now the ability to proceed orders for the machines. For each workstation
85 that is sold via the new vendors.gentoo.org[16] site, the Foundation will
86 receive a 100 USD donation from Genesi. A detailed description of the
87 hardware you buy is available at the ODW page[17], from where you can
88 register and place your order via the Freescale online shop.
89 15.
90 http://www.gentoo.org/news/en/gwn/20050124-newsletter.xml#doc_chap1_sect3
91 16. http://vendors.gentoo.org
92 17. http://vendors.gentoo.org/index.cgi?page=1&comGroup=1
93
94 =========================
95 2. Heard in the community
96 =========================
97
98 gentoo-dev
99 ----------
100
101 GLEP talk
102
103 The last weeks have seen lots of discussion on the Gentoo Linux
104 Enhancement Proposals, and how the system as it is now can be improved:
105
106 * USE groups (and negatives) [GLEP 29][18]
107 * Metapackages [unnumbered][19]
108 * Eclass Restructure/Redesign [GLEP 33][20]
109 * uid/gid handling [GLEP 27][21]
110 * Per-Category metadata.xml Files [unnumbered][22]
111 * Subversion for Gentoo hosted projects [unnumbered][23]
112 * GLEP system worthwile? [meta-discussion][24]
113 18. http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.devel/25967
114 19. http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.devel/25879
115 20. http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.devel/25950
116 21. http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.devel/26016
117 22. http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.devel/26165
118 23. http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.devel/26106
119 24. http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.devel/26158
120
121 Metastructure/organizational idea
122
123 Brian Jackson[25] presents a new approach to handling inactive developers:
124 "I think we should institute a monthly survivor-esque vote to get rid of
125 developers that are useless. I think this would help much more than
126 needlessly reorganizing management once again. Once we vote off all the
127 useless people that just seem to complain about management, we can all
128 live happily ever after."
129 25. iggy@g.o
130
131 * Metastructure/organizational idea[26]
132 26. http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.devel/26081
133
134 Keywording policy
135
136 Jason Wever[27] has some advice for other devs: "I'd like to ask that you
137 all take the time to review the keywording policy in the Developer
138 Handbook. In particular, I'd like to draw your attention to the section on
139 "Upgrading Ebuilds" People have been getting good lately at either
140 dropping keywords for no reason and/or failing to notify or file a bug
141 with the arches dropped as to why."
142 27. weeve@g.o
143
144 * Keywording policy[28]
145 28. http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.devel/26030
146
147 =======================
148 3. Gentoo International
149 =======================
150
151 Germany: IT/Linux Days Lörrach
152 -------------------------------
153
154 The "REGIO Messe" is an annual event in a region known as "Trirhenia",
155 with French, Swiss and German constituencies all sitting on the banks of
156 the river Rhine. The four-day IT/Linux Days in Lörrach are part of the
157 larger REGIO event, and Gentoo has been present at this fair for the
158 second time in a row. The booth was manned by a team of supporters and
159 developers of the Gentoo project, Sebastian Müller (dakjo), Timo Antweiler
160 (aZZe), Stefan Knoblich[29] (stkn), and Tobias Scherbaum[30] (dertobi123).
161 The same LiveDVD and CD already sold at FOSDEM in Brussels and the
162 Linuxtage in Chemnitz last week were available again (and can still be had
163 via Bittorrent[31]. At the booth, questions about Gentoo Linux on
164 "alternative" architectures dominated the dialogue with visitors, with one
165 of the more frequent requests, interestingly enough, being a Sparc32 port.
166 Next year's ITLD will be rebaptized to "Minibit", and chances are that
167 Gentoo will be present again.
168 29. stkn@g.o
169 30. dertobi123@g.o
170 31. http://tracker.netdomination.org
171
172 Figure 3.1: Impressions from the IT/Linux Days
173 http://www.gentoo.org/images/gwn/20050314_itld.jpg
174
175 Note: Left: maddog giving the keynote speech, center: Tobias Scherbaum
176 installing Gentoo on a Mac Mini, right: Sebastian Müller hacking away at a
177 3GHz P4 (
178
179 Some people may have trouble finding the small South-German town of
180 Lörrach on a map. Not so Jon "maddog" Hall, open-source evangelist and
181 legendary executive director of Linux International: Not only did he know
182 where Lörrach is, he stayed for the entire duration of the event, and he
183 also identified its most interesting spots right away.
184
185 Figure 3.2: Embracing the future: maddog visits the Gentoo booth
186 http://www.gentoo.org/images/gwn/20050314_maddog.jpg
187
188 Note: Left to right: Gentoo developer Stefan Knoblich, Jon "maddog" Hall,
189 booth staffers Timo Antweiler and Sebastian Müller
190
191 Japan: The future of software engineering
192 -----------------------------------------
193
194 Yoshiaki Hagihara[32], former lead translator on the Japanese GentooJP
195 team, has written a book on the future of software engineering in Japan.
196 日本のSEはこれからどうなるのか[33] (What's to become of Japan's software
197 engineering?) is a collection of interviews with a wide range of people,
198 from manga artists to Japanese SE companies, and several professional
199 foreign and Japanese hackers, including three Gentooists: Ion Mudreac, the
200 man behind the Romanian Gentoo website[34], Gentoo developer Masatomo
201 Nakano[35], spiritus rector of the GentooJP project, and GentooJP
202 co-founder Hiroshi Senri[36]. The book, published by Shoeisha[37], is sold
203 online for 1575 JPY (15 USD).
204 32. hagi@×××.com
205 33. http://www.seshop.com/detail.asp?pid=5819
206 34. http://www.gentoo.ro
207 35. nakano@g.o
208 36. http://senri.homelinux.com/
209 37. http://www.shoeisha.co.jp/
210
211 Figure 3.1: Cover of Yoshiaki Hagihara's book
212 http://www.gentoo.org/images/gwn/20050314_book.jpg
213
214 Germany: Gentoo introduction for LUUSA
215 --------------------------------------
216
217 Despite appearances, the members of LUUSA[38] are quite knowledgeable
218 folk: the acronym stands for "Linux and Unix Users Sankt Augustin", the
219 resident LUG of a community near Bonn, the former German capital.
220 Sebastian Bergmann[39] had the honour of holding a talk about Gentoo in
221 general at a meeting last Thursday, 10 March 2005, at Bonn's community
222 center "Netzladen", in front of about 30 LUUSAs in the audience. Two
223 fellow Gentoo developers, Lars Weiler[40] and Marc Hildebrand[41], had
224 stopped by to support Sebastian. His slides (including screen shots from
225 the Gentoo Installer project) are available in PDF[42], Flash[43] and
226 Openoffice Impress format[44].
227 38. http://www.luusa.org
228 39. sebastian@g.o
229 40. pylon@g.o
230 41. zypher@g.o
231 42. http://www.sebastian-bergmann.de/talks/2005-03-10-Gentoo.pdf
232 43. http://www.sebastian-bergmann.de/talks/2005-03-10-Gentoo.swf
233 44. http://www.sebastian-bergmann.de/talks/2005-03-10-Gentoo.sxi
234
235 Figure 3.1: The LUUSA audience at the Netzladen in Bonn
236 http://www.gentoo.org/images/gwn/20050314_luusa.jpg
237
238 ======================
239 4. Gentoo in the press
240 ======================
241
242 Linux Format (Issue 65)
243 -----------------------
244
245 The UK Linux Format magazine has awarded its annual reader selection of
246 the best projects in the open-source realm. Gentoo received the palmares
247 in two of the three categories it was nominated in: "Best support" went to
248 the Gentoo Forums, according to Linux Format "no doubt boosted by the
249 canvassing that Gentoo did on those very pages," and the award for "Best
250 distro" in 2004 was won by Gentoo, beating the usual suspects Mandrake,
251 Fedora and SuSE. Linux Format notes that "by a reasonable margin, this
252 year's spoils go to a relative newcomer who has picked up a lot of
253 supporters in the last twelve months -- Gentoo. Well done!"
254
255 FAZ (7 March 2005)
256 ------------------
257
258 Anticipating this week's Cebit IT fair in Hannover, one of Germany's major
259 daily newspapers had an article on "Programming for the benefit of
260 mankind" in last monday's edition, written by free-lancer Detlef Borchers.
261 "When a trade fair has established itself as the world's largest computer
262 fair, it doesn't really have to be afraid of an immediate loss of
263 importance. But Cebit has a problem, the same problem as Microsoft. And
264 they're not the only ones," writes Borchers about the rise of open-source
265 development. The article mentions Gentoo in a paragraph about the
266 highlights at this year's FOSDEM in Brussels, which Borchers considers "a
267 traditional major hacker event," exemplifying the ways of the open-source
268 movement that look strange to people who only know Microsoft environments.
269 To him, Gentoo and the other "clans" who were present with DevRooms of
270 their own, sound "like Spanish villages, but hiding behind those names are
271 vital software constructs."
272
273 ===========================
274 5. Moves, adds, and changes
275 ===========================
276
277 Moves
278 -----
279
280 The following developers recently left the Gentoo team:
281
282 * None this week
283
284 Adds
285 ----
286
287 The following developers recently joined the Gentoo Linux team:
288
289 * Carlos Silva (r3bak) - Kernel
290
291 Changes
292 -------
293
294 The following developers recently changed roles within the Gentoo Linux
295 project:
296
297 * None this week
298
299 ==================
300 6. Gentoo security
301 ==================
302
303 mlterm: Integer overflow vulnerability
304 --------------------------------------
305
306 mlterm is vulnerable to an integer overflow, which could potentially allow
307 the execution of arbitrary code.
308
309 For more information, please see the GLSA Announcement[45]
310 45. http://www.gentoo.org/security/en/glsa/glsa-200503-13.xml
311
312 KDE dcopidlng: Insecure temporary file creation
313 -----------------------------------------------
314
315 The dcopidlng script is vulnerable to symlink attacks, potentially
316 allowing a local user to overwrite arbitrary files.
317
318 For more information, please see the GLSA Announcement[46]
319 46. http://www.gentoo.org/security/en/glsa/glsa-200503-14.xml
320
321 X.org: libXpm vulnerability
322 ---------------------------
323
324 A new vulnerability has been discovered in libXpm, which is included in
325 X.org, that can potentially lead to remote code execution.
326
327 For more information, please see the GLSA Announcement[47]
328 47. http://www.gentoo.org/security/en/glsa/glsa-200503-15.xml
329
330 Ethereal: Multiple vulnerabilities
331 ----------------------------------
332
333 Multiple vulnerabilities exist in Ethereal, which may allow an attacker to
334 run arbitrary code or crash the program.
335
336 For more information, please see the GLSA Announcement[48]
337 48. http://www.gentoo.org/security/en/glsa/glsa-200503-16.xml
338
339 libexif: Buffer overflow vulnerability
340 --------------------------------------
341
342 libexif fails to validate certain inputs, making it vulnerable to buffer
343 overflows.
344
345 For more information, please see the GLSA Announcement[49]
346 49. http://www.gentoo.org/security/en/glsa/glsa-200503-17.xml
347
348 ===========
349 7. Bugzilla
350 ===========
351
352 Summary
353 -------
354
355 * Statistics
356 * Closed bug ranking
357 * New bug rankings
358
359 Statistics
360 ----------
361
362 The Gentoo community uses Bugzilla (bugs.gentoo.org[50]) to record and
363 track bugs, notifications, suggestions and other interactions with the
364 development team. Between 06 March 2005 and 13 March 2005, activity on the
365 site has resulted in:
366 50. http://bugs.gentoo.org
367
368 * 765 new bugs during this period
369 * 405 bugs closed or resolved during this period
370 * 26 previously closed bugs were reopened this period
371
372 Of the 8238 currently open bugs: 97 are labeled 'blocker', 229 are labeled
373 'critical', and 598 are labeled 'major'.
374
375 Closed bug rankings
376 -------------------
377
378 The developers and teams who have closed the most bugs during this period
379 are:
380
381 * AMD64 Porting Team[51], with 34 closed bugs[52]
382 * Gentoo's Team for Core System packages[53], with 26 closed bugs[54]
383 * media-video herd[55], with 22 closed bugs[56]
384 * Gentoo Linux Gnome Desktop Team[57], with 19 closed bugs[58]
385 * Gentoo Sound Team[59], with 18 closed bugs[60]
386 * Perl Devs @ Gentoo[61], with 18 closed bugs[62]
387 * Gentoo Games[63], with 16 closed bugs[64]
388 * Gentoo Security[65], with 13 closed bugs[66]
389 51. amd64@g.o
390 52.
391 http://bugs.gentoo.org/buglist.cgi?bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=CLOSED&chfield=bug_status&chfieldfrom=2005-03-06&chfieldto=2005-03-13&resolution=FIXED&assigned_to=amd64@g.o
392 53. base-system@g.o
393 54.
394 http://bugs.gentoo.org/buglist.cgi?bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=CLOSED&chfield=bug_status&chfieldfrom=2005-03-06&chfieldto=2005-03-13&resolution=FIXED&assigned_to=base-system@g.o
395 55. media-video@g.o
396 56.
397 http://bugs.gentoo.org/buglist.cgi?bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=CLOSED&chfield=bug_status&chfieldfrom=2005-03-06&chfieldto=2005-03-13&resolution=FIXED&assigned_to=media-video@g.o
398 57. gnome@g.o
399 58.
400 http://bugs.gentoo.org/buglist.cgi?bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=CLOSED&chfield=bug_status&chfieldfrom=2005-03-06&chfieldto=2005-03-13&resolution=FIXED&assigned_to=gnome@g.o
401 59. sound@g.o
402 60.
403 http://bugs.gentoo.org/buglist.cgi?bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=CLOSED&chfield=bug_status&chfieldfrom=2005-03-06&chfieldto=2005-03-13&resolution=FIXED&assigned_to=sound@g.o
404 61. perl@g.o
405 62.
406 http://bugs.gentoo.org/buglist.cgi?bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=CLOSED&chfield=bug_status&chfieldfrom=2005-03-06&chfieldto=2005-03-13&resolution=FIXED&assigned_to=perl@g.o
407 63. games@g.o
408 64.
409 http://bugs.gentoo.org/buglist.cgi?bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=CLOSED&chfield=bug_status&chfieldfrom=2005-03-06&chfieldto=2005-03-13&resolution=FIXED&assigned_to=games@g.o
410 65. security@g.o
411 66.
412 http://bugs.gentoo.org/buglist.cgi?bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=CLOSED&chfield=bug_status&chfieldfrom=2005-03-06&chfieldto=2005-03-13&resolution=FIXED&assigned_to=security@g.o
413
414 New bug rankings
415 ----------------
416
417 The developers and teams who have been assigned the most new bugs during
418 this period are:
419
420 * Gentoo Linux Gnome Desktop Team[67], with 14 new bugs[68]
421 * Gentoo Web Application Packages Maintainers[69], with 11 new bugs[70]
422 * Gentoo X-windows packagers[71], with 10 new bugs[72]
423 * Gentoo Sound Team[73], with 9 new bugs[74]
424 * Gentoo's Team for Core System packages[75], with 9 new bugs[76]
425 * AMD64 Porting Team[77], with 9 new bugs[78]
426 * media-video herd[79], with 8 new bugs[80]
427 * Gentoo Games[81], with 8 new bugs[82]
428 67. gnome@g.o
429 68.
430 http://bugs.gentoo.org/buglist.cgi?bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&chfield=assigned_to&chfieldfrom=2005-03-06&chfieldto=2005-03-13&assigned_to=gnome@g.o
431 69. web-apps@g.o
432 70.
433 http://bugs.gentoo.org/buglist.cgi?bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&chfield=assigned_to&chfieldfrom=2005-03-06&chfieldto=2005-03-13&assigned_to=web-apps@g.o
434 71. x11@g.o
435 72.
436 http://bugs.gentoo.org/buglist.cgi?bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&chfield=assigned_to&chfieldfrom=2005-03-06&chfieldto=2005-03-13&assigned_to=x11@g.o
437 73. sound@g.o
438 74.
439 http://bugs.gentoo.org/buglist.cgi?bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&chfield=assigned_to&chfieldfrom=2005-03-06&chfieldto=2005-03-13&assigned_to=sound@g.o
440 75. base-system@g.o
441 76.
442 http://bugs.gentoo.org/buglist.cgi?bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&chfield=assigned_to&chfieldfrom=2005-03-06&chfieldto=2005-03-13&assigned_to=base-system@g.o
443 77. amd64@g.o
444 78.
445 http://bugs.gentoo.org/buglist.cgi?bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&chfield=assigned_to&chfieldfrom=2005-03-06&chfieldto=2005-03-13&assigned_to=amd64@g.o
446 79. media-video@g.o
447 80.
448 http://bugs.gentoo.org/buglist.cgi?bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&chfield=assigned_to&chfieldfrom=2005-03-06&chfieldto=2005-03-13&assigned_to=media-video@g.o
449 81. games@g.o
450 82.
451 http://bugs.gentoo.org/buglist.cgi?bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&chfield=assigned_to&chfieldfrom=2005-03-06&chfieldto=2005-03-13&assigned_to=games@g.o
452
453 ====================
454 8. Contribute to GWN
455 ====================
456
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459 83. gwn-feedback@g.o
460
461 ===============
462 9. GWN feedback
463 ===============
464
465 Please send us your feedback[84] and help make the GWN better.
466 84. gwn-feedback@g.o
467
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511
512 Ulrich Plate <plate@g.o> - Editor
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