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2017.Április 30.(V) 16:34 időpontban Andrew Savchenko ezt írta: |
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>> On Sun, Apr 30, 2017 at 04:00:39PM +0300, Andrew Savchenko wrote: |
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>> > The only way to preserve this functionality in the long run is to |
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>> > port it to the mainline kernel. This will not be easy, most likely |
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>> > not everything will be accepted, some stuff will have to be |
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>> > reimplemented using another approaches, etc. |
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>> We had 16 years to do this with help of GrSec/PaX developers. It wasn't |
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>> happened, and it's unlikely happens now unless some huge company decide |
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>> to |
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>> spend a lot of resources for this. |
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> There was not enough motivation for this. Why to invest resources |
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> into porting if it works the way it is? Now situation is different, |
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> so we'll see what follows. |
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> BTW a number of features were ported to or reimplemented in the |
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> mainline kernel: ASLR, MAC, auditing, ptrace snooping protection. |
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> Probably many more, I haven't studies this in detail. |
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It's unlikely in my opinion to squeez stuff in the mainline kernel, given |
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a long history of ignorance regarding security and the bad habit of |
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reimplementing some features anyway in a contraproductive, weaker way. |
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If the leading developers could not reason for inclusion, it is unlikely |
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that some of those involved could achieve acceptance. Who is reading |
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processor specifications in the morning instead of watching the news - |
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apart from pipacs? |
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Think of it. You implement and invent unique stuff. Linux leaders |
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repeatedly fail to get the point and giving bogus reasons for rejection. |
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You have one life and limited resources. What would you do? |
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I don't have time to worry about the non-security-savvy part of the Linux |
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community going unprotected without even realizing it. However I hope |
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there will be a chance for everybody having enough knowledge to understand |
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the importance of the hardened track to use these unmatched software |
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techniques. |
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Best regards: |
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Dw. |
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dr Tóth Attila, Radiológus, 06-20-825-8057 |
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Attila Toth MD, Radiologist, +36-20-825-8057 |
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