Gentoo Archives: gentoo-installer

From: "Norman Rieß" <norman@×××××××××.org>
To: gentoo-installer@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-installer] version 0.3 of the Gentoo Linux Installer
Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 19:48:14
Message-Id: 4404A8AF.8010604@smash-net.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-installer] version 0.3 of the Gentoo Linux Installer by Andrew Gaffney
1 Andrew Gaffney schrieb:
2
3 > Norman Rieß wrote:
4 >
5 >> Andrew Gaffney schrieb:
6 >>
7 >>> Simon Stelling wrote:
8 >>>
9 >>>> Norman Rieß wrote:
10 >>>>
11 >>>>> But see it with the eyes of a random Gentoo beginner.
12 >>>>> You come to the "USE Flags" screen seeing some settings. You think
13 >>>>> "That
14 >>>>> are surely some nice settings. Otherwise they wouldn´t be set as
15 >>>>> default".
16 >>>>> But then you choose KDE. Now you have a KDE system with "+gnome
17 >>>>> -kde" as
18 >>>>> USE Flags.
19 >>>>
20 >>>>
21 >>>>
22 >>>> If people are not willing to read documentation, that's their
23 >>>> fault. Being a
24 >>>> newbie or a sysadmin++, it doesn't matter.
25 >>>
26 >>>
27 >>>
28 >>> You took the words from my mouth.
29 >>>
30 >> Right. But some WILL NOT read the documentation and they WILL create
31 >> a crapy system.
32 >> And then they WILL run to the forums. And guys like you WILL tell
33 >> them to RTFM.
34 >> And they will tell their friends what a crapy system Gentoo is and
35 >> what jerks these Gentoo users are.
36 >>
37 >> Seriously give them a nice default system and tell them later in a
38 >> nicer way to read how to extend the system.
39 >
40 >
41 > How is that any different than a "manual" install? Many people don't
42 > read the handbook completely and then complain loudly about how Gentoo
43 > sucks.
44 >
45 Exactly LinuxMan´s an my point, isn´t it?
46 Setting the right USE-Flags based on the users software-selection is not
47 only intuitive like Ashley said, it will/could prevent people from
48 building shitty systems.
49 If you want the installer to be a "alternative manual install", why
50 write it in the first place?
51 I thought it is writen to automise the installation, not "redefine" the
52 manual one.
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Re: [gentoo-installer] version 0.3 of the Gentoo Linux Installer Donnie Berkholz <spyderous@g.o>