Gentoo Archives: gentoo-installer

From: John Walsh <high@×××××××××.org>
To: gentoo-installer@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-installer] Gentoo installer vs current installation method, what about later?
Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2005 04:05:37
Message-Id: 20051022040529.C2CFDCA0A3@ws5-11.us4.outblaze.com
1 Don't get mad, Andrew Gaffney answered my question, ok?
2 I was worried about you cutting out a bunch of things, that's all.
3
4 Gabriel
5
6 ----- Original Message -----
7 From: "Chris Gianelloni" <wolf31o2@g.o>
8 To: gentoo-installer@l.g.o
9 Subject: Re: [gentoo-installer] Gentoo installer vs current installation method, what about later?
10 Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 14:47:36 -0400
11
12 >
13 > On Fri, 2005-10-21 at 02:17 +0800, John Walsh wrote:
14 > > But I like the non-X liveCD (not the minimal, the Universal), everybody has X
15 > > livecd's and the simplicity and power of the current livecd is unmatched.
16 > > Is there no way of keeping the same Universal LiveCD as is now
17 > > for those users that
18 > > prefer it? I mean, when a system is down, there is no need to
19 > > start X and have open-office and x-chat, xine, mplayer, xmms, etc
20 > > on the CD, but as many tools as possible, like it is now to get
21 > > it back up.
22 >
23 > Were you paying attention at all? I said that it will be capable of
24 > booting directly to a terminal. Even the current LiveCD can do that.
25 > Simply boot with "nox" and you're at the terminal.
26 >
27 > At any rate, no, there is no way we are keeping the Universal CD when we
28 > will have another CD that is approximately the same size on the mirrors
29 > and is a superset of its functionality. I don't like wasting my time
30 > implementing something with no real use.
31 >
32 > > ----- Original Message -----
33 > > From: "Chris Gianelloni" <wolf31o2@g.o>
34 > > To: gentoo-installer@l.g.o
35 > > Subject: Re: [gentoo-installer] Gentoo installer vs current
36 > > installation method, what about later?
37 > > Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 14:53:48 -0400
38 > >
39 > > > > On Thu, 2005-10-20 at 01:59 +0800, John Walsh wrote:
40 > > > > Hello all,
41 > > > >
42 > > > > I just need some enlightenment, is the gentoo installer going
43 > > to > > REPLACE the current methode or is it going to
44 > > > > be an aleternative, like choosing in between expert/manual
45 > > (the > > current method) and easy (the gentoo installer).
46 > > > > The reason I ask this is because I like the current install >
47 > > > method via the livecd and I use that livecd A LOT when
48 > > > > I have to solve some problems on a linux (and even window$) >
49 > > > partition. I wouldn't not want to be able to still use the
50 > > livecd > > as it is currently usable, because I think it is the
51 > > best livecd > > out there. If it is going to completely
52 > > > > replace the current livecd installation method then is there
53 > > > > going to someone at Gentoo to keep up the livecd
54 > > > > tradition?
55 > > > > The concept I have in place for future releases is pretty simple. There
56 > > > will be 2 CD images per architecture.
57 > > > > 1. Minimal InstallCD
58 > > > 2. Installer LiveCD
59 > > > > There will also be stages 1, 2, and 3 on the mirrors. You will still be
60 > > > able to do a manual installation, but it will be highly discouraged,
61 > > > simply due to possible problems.
62 > > > > At any rate, when I say LiveCD, I mean the full-blown CD with X on it.
63 > > > This CD will be the replacement for both the Universal InstallCD and the
64 > > > PackageCD. It will also be usable as a RescueCD, so essentially, it is
65 > > > filling three roles.
66 > > > > The Minimal InstallCD will be reduced even further to be usable for
67 > > > installation only. Any non-installation-related packages will be
68 > > > removed from the CD. I've been considering even removing some of the
69 > > > lesser-used drivers that typically cause problems and leaving them for
70 > > > the full LiveCD only.
71 > > > > You can, of course, still perform a manual installation using the
72 > > > LiveCD. You aren't forced to use the Installer. I, personally, only
73 > > > use the LiveCD, as I like having a complete environment available when
74 > > > doing troubleshooting, or even just being able to get on gaim while I'm
75 > > > waiting for my install to complete.
76 > > > > --
77 > > > Chris Gianelloni
78 > > > Release Engineering - Strategic Lead
79 > > > x86 Architecture Team
80 > > > Games - Developer
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