On Thu, 20 Oct 2005 14:47:36 -0400
Chris Gianelloni <email@example.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 2005-10-21 at 02:17 +0800, John Walsh wrote:
> > But I like the non-X liveCD (not the minimal, the Universal),
> > everybody has X livecd's and the simplicity and power of the
> > current livecd is unmatched. Is there no way of keeping the same
> > Universal LiveCD as is now for those users that prefer it? I mean,
> > when a system is down, there is no need to start X and have
> > open-office and x-chat, xine, mplayer, xmms, etc on the CD, but as
> > many tools as possible, like it is now to get it back up.
> Were you paying attention at all? I said that it will be capable of
> booting directly to a terminal. Even the current LiveCD can do that.
> Simply boot with "nox" and you're at the terminal.
> At any rate, no, there is no way we are keeping the Universal CD when
> we will have another CD that is approximately the same size on the
> mirrors and is a superset of its functionality. I don't like wasting
> my time implementing something with no real use.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Chris Gianelloni" <firstname.lastname@example.org>
> > To: email@example.com
> > Subject: Re: [gentoo-installer] Gentoo installer vs current
> > installation method, what about later? Date: Wed, 19 Oct
> > 2005 14:53:48 -0400
> > >
> > > On Thu, 2005-10-20 at 01:59 +0800, John Walsh wrote:
> > > > Hello all,
> > > >
> > > > I just need some enlightenment, is the gentoo installer going
> > > > to REPLACE the current methode or is it going to
> > > > be an aleternative, like choosing in between expert/manual (the
> > > > current method) and easy (the gentoo installer).
> > > > The reason I ask this is because I like the current install
> > > > method via the livecd and I use that livecd A LOT when
> > > > I have to solve some problems on a linux (and even window$)
> > > > partition. I wouldn't not want to be able to still use the
> > > > livecd as it is currently usable, because I think it is the
> > > > best livecd out there. If it is going to completely
> > > > replace the current livecd installation method then is there
> > > > going to someone at Gentoo to keep up the livecd
> > > > tradition?
> > >
> > > The concept I have in place for future releases is pretty
> > > simple. There will be 2 CD images per architecture.
> > >
> > > 1. Minimal InstallCD
> > > 2. Installer LiveCD
> > >
> > > There will also be stages 1, 2, and 3 on the mirrors. You will
> > > still be able to do a manual installation, but it will be highly
> > > discouraged, simply due to possible problems.
> > >
> > > At any rate, when I say LiveCD, I mean the full-blown CD with X
> > > on it. This CD will be the replacement for both the Universal
> > > InstallCD and the PackageCD. It will also be usable as a
> > > RescueCD, so essentially, it is filling three roles.
> > >
> > > The Minimal InstallCD will be reduced even further to be usable
> > > for installation only. Any non-installation-related packages
> > > will be removed from the CD. I've been considering even removing
> > > some of the lesser-used drivers that typically cause problems and
> > > leaving them for the full LiveCD only.
> > >
> > > You can, of course, still perform a manual installation using the
> > > LiveCD. You aren't forced to use the Installer. I, personally,
> > > only use the LiveCD, as I like having a complete environment
> > > available when doing troubleshooting, or even just being able to
> > > get on gaim while I'm waiting for my install to complete.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Chris Gianelloni
> > > Release Engineering - Strategic Lead
> > > x86 Architecture Team
> > > Games - Developer
> > > Gentoo Linux
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As for something with no real use, I always thought it could be nice to
have solitaire or some other simple game on the live CD to keep those
people (sad, lonely people with nothing better to do - not me of
course!) occupied whilst installing :P
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