Gentoo Archives: gentoo-installer

From: Chris Gianelloni <wolf31o2@g.o>
To: gentoo-installer@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-installer] Gentoo installer vs current installation method, what about later?
Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 21:24:34
Message-Id: 1129843459.11559.82.camel@cgianelloni.nuvox.net
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-installer] Gentoo installer vs current installation method, what about later? by Mike Rosset
1 On Thu, 2005-10-20 at 13:54 -0700, Mike Rosset wrote:
2 > I don't buy any of that, release the code a prove what you say is
3 > true. We all know releng uses catalyst to master there iso's. Why
4 > wouldn't you in this case? what is the point of Catalyst but to create
5 > the Gentoo's master iso's?
6
7 I don't give a damn if you're not buying it. I'm not selling it. It is
8 fact. Also, as the primary author of catalyst, would it not make sense
9 to you that I might make changes to the code on my own machine and
10 actually *test* it before committing it to CVS? I'm sorry that much of
11 the concepts of development escape you, but a this point, I don't care
12 what you think about it.
13
14 > And where is this elusive cvs for Catalyst 2?
15
16 cvs.gentoo.org
17
18 You can go to viewcvs.gentoo.org and look at the gentoo module.
19 Catalyst is under src/catalyst.
20
21 > I'm really glad your upstream providers dont treat you guys this way.
22 > Imagine bash with out make files... I can just hear GNU saying "make
23 > your own make files" ... google it.
24
25 Except for one thing. We actually work with our upstream providers. We
26 don't make demands of them and treat them like they are our personal
27 slaves. Not to mention, there are many cases where we have to write our
28 own Makefiles, so this is a pretty stupid argument. Then again,
29 consider the source.
30
31 > And no I'm not troll since I can be reasoned with, my request is
32 > reasonable. I havent seen any movement on your behalf Chris to even
33 > remotely trying to help me.
34
35 No. You cannot be reasoned with. From the very beginning you've been
36 nothing but inflammatory and an asshole. You're winning friends and
37 influencing people all over the place.
38
39 I'll gladly help people who want to be courteous about it. I even
40 recommended you go to the gentoo-catalyst mailing list and ask
41 *specific* questions with anything you had a problem with when building
42 your CD. Instead, you started making demands and being a general prick
43 to many people.
44
45 After all, am I also required to post my .vim files from my machines
46 that I do development on because "it's open source"? (Thanks joem!)
47
48 Don't be ludicrous.
49
50 --
51 Chris Gianelloni
52 Release Engineering - Strategic Lead
53 x86 Architecture Team
54 Games - Developer
55 Gentoo Linux

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