Re: [gentoo-installer] Gentoo installer vs current installation method, what about later?

[Chris Gianelloni]

On Thu, 2005-10-20 at 16:16 -0400, Michael Crute wrote:
> On 10/20/05, Mike Rosset <schizoid29@×××××.com> wrote:
>         I've all ready asked for those and got shot down appartently
>         Chris wont release them. Also Chris will try to bump this to
>         another list releng, more then likely
>
> Why not release them? Is this not open source? What's so secret about
> an iso image?

Ehh... I'm not releasing it because it won't work for you.  It's really
that simple.  When I was working on the ISO, rather than doing things
"right" and extensible, I did them "quick and dirty".  I added
hard-coded paths.  I changed pieces of code that I know will break other
things.  Besides this, I *still* have to do manual intervention in some
places to get things to work.

Basically, if I took a dump in a bag and gave it to you, you'd get about
as much use out of it.  If you want to look at my turd, at least let me
polish it for you.

Also, there's nothing "open source" about the spec files used to build a
CD.  While catalyst is released under the GPL, and the individual
packages are released under some open source license or another, the
actual spec files aren't under any license until I release them.  The
*only* reason that they get released is because of the general open
nature of Gentoo, not because of any licensing requirement.  Basically,
they get released because I want to release them.  At any rate, as I've
stated a few times (thanks for the troll, Mike!) already, I'll release
proper spec files after the release of catalyst 2.0, once there is
actually something that makes the spec files usable.  Until that time,
you can consider the spec files under the FWO (For Wolf Only) license.
If you want to peek at them, I'll fax you a NDA for you to sign after
you send me the check for a FWO license... :P

I could release what I have right now, but you wouldn't understand how
it works, since they would not work with any released version of
catalyst.  They wouldn't even work with catalyst 2.0 from CVS.  My spec
files work *only* on my *one* workstation that I've been using to build
the LiveCD on, simply because I was lazy and under a lot of pressure to
produce the CD in a very limited amount of time and have no interest to
spend countless hours cleaning it up just so I can release it in its
current ugly state.  Most of the code has already been pushed into
catalyst 2.0 CVS, but there's still a few patches I have to add before
that goes out for release.

-- 
Chris Gianelloni
Release Engineering - Strategic Lead
x86 Architecture Team
Games - Developer
Gentoo Linux