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From: Eric Sammer <esammer@g.o>
To: gentoo-installer@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-installer] installer/ releng coordination
Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2004 02:35:42
Message-Id: 40C7C8F9.8020600@gentoo.org
In Reply to: [gentoo-installer] installer/ releng coordination by John Davis
1 John Davis wrote:
2
3 > Installer folk (I am not sure who all of you are atm) -
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5 Primarily, it's tseng, spyderous, npmccallum, samyron, klieber, and
6 myself. Regular contributors, commenters, cheerleaders, and
7 bad-idea-pointer-out-ers are cshields, port001, ciaranm, method, and a
8 few others (sorry if I missed anyone - I'm going from memory).
9
10 > Although the installer project is listed as a releng subproject, I
11 > cannot remember a time when we have actually coordinated our efforts!
12
13 Indeed. We've spoken (briefly) about how we might be able to integrate
14 some of our efforts to work toward a common goal, but (speaking for
15 myself only now) I think we wanted to solidify a number of things before
16 we started dragging other teams in. We just didn't want to waste
17 anyone's time. Our current goal was to be able to produce a beta quality
18 chunk of code that met the original design and stated goals. I think
19 that we're coming up on the time when we'll need to coordinate with our
20 friendly releng cohorts and work out things like, well, "release
21 engineering."
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23 >
24 > So, let's change that. What can releng do to help out with the installer
25 > project? I would like to work hand-in-hand with the installer project
26 > and work towards a Gentoo installer for mid-2005. Is this doable?
27
28 I think so. I feel like the interest is picking up and more and more
29 people are wanting to get involved. To me, this says we're doing
30 something right. I know it's a slow "right," but it's better than a fast
31 "wrong," in my opinion. ;)
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33 My gut tells me our main hurdle (in relation to things that we'd need to
34 coordinate on) is going to be working out the installer / livecd
35 integration. We've talked about this in installer channels like this
36 list and #gentoo-installer and have some ideas how the impact could
37 remain minimal, but I'd like to hear some ideas from releng who aren't
38 tainted by what we've already been discussing. To be honest, our needs
39 aren't exactly minimal - we need python, some extra C libraries and
40 python bindings, network support, maybe even support for netbooting as
41 we get into the automated deployment areas. The goal is to not force
42 anyone in Gentoo land to use the installer - it should be an option only.
43
44 The best we can do is keep a tight contact with each other. I'll join
45 the releng lists, if that's acceptable to you (zhen) and lurk so I can
46 get a better picture of what you folks are up to.
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48 Thanks again for "reaching out," John. It's nice to work with a team
49 that acts like a team.
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Re: [gentoo-installer] installer/ releng coordination John Davis <zhen@g.o>