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Joshua Nichols wrote: |
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>>So who wants to run a 1.4 JDK? And what, exactly, prevents anything |
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>>from being compiled under 1.5? The only thing I can think of is the |
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>>user of the newly reserved word 'enum'. Big deal. How long has 1.5 |
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>>been around now? |
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> Have you actually tried using a 1.5 JDK to emerge your system? I'm |
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> guessing not, because xerces, xalan, and dom4j won't compile with 1.5, |
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> and they are pretty critical XML libraries that lots of things use. |
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See my response to the "ant won't compile" message. Same story, at |
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least partially. |
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Download sources for Xerces-J. Read README, which tells me I need the |
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tools. Download the tools. Extract "in the same directory." What does |
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that mean? Read build.sh. Ah, tools is in the Xerces directory. Do that. |
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Run sh build.sh jars. Result: |
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BUILD SUCCESSFUL |
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Total time: 13 seconds |
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Do I really have to do this with Xalan as well? Java 5 ships with |
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xerces as its parser, in place of crimson. That's in the incompatibility |
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notes. It ships with xalan, and defaults to using xsltc. Also in the |
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incompatibility notes. (And xalan 2.7.0 has one reported bug that I |
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know of that causes problems with netbeans 5.0). |
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The simple fact is that I can pick up any of the binaries and they will |
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almost certainly run without problems. There are a handful of obscure |
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binary-level incompatibilities, but the only problem I have encountered |
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is the netbeans bug I mentioned; not an incompatibility. |
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Peter |
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> Actually, there are a number of incompatibilities: |
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> http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/compatibility.html#incompatibilities |
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>>My perception is that there is only an ideological impediment to going |
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>>with 1.5. That is that it will be a long time before the |
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>>Stallman-approved JVMs support 1.5. So, the Java herd on Gentoo Stalls |
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>>the adoption of 1.5, just to "prove" that 1) you don't need it, and 2) |
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>>it's a very bad thing. Or at least it will be until the "free as in |
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>>slaves to ideology" crowd get their act together. Thanks for nothing. |
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> Somehow, I must have missed the conspiracy memo.... Seriously though, |
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> where the heck did this come from? |
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> I think you're seriously overestimating the manpower working on Java |
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> support for Gentoo. There are now 10 developers (I'm a recent addition), |
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> with 3 currently on leave. Of those 7, most of them have some sort of |
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> life outside of Gentoo. With some 300+ packages to maintain with some |
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> 200 outstanding bugs, there isn't a lot of time/effort remaining for new |
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> and exciting stuff. |
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> Plus, it's not like there hasn't been work towards 1.5 support. See the |
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> 1.5 metabug: http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=65937 |
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> Additionally, Thomas (axxo) has been working on an overlay for the past |
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> six months or so to support 1.5, as was previously announced |
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> (http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.java/605). He must not have |
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> gotten the memo either. |
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> So how can one help with supporting 1.5? Testing and provididing |
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> feedback on axxo-overlay would be the most useful. There are some |
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> details on http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/java/ but I hope to add more |
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> details sometime this evening. |
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> Regards, |
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> Josh |
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Peter B. West <http://cv.pbw.id.au/> |
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Folio <http://defoe.sourceforge.net/folio/> |
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