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From: Joshua Nichols <nichoj@g.o>
Subject: Re: Gentoo Java / Apache Tomcat choices vs FreeBSD
Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 14:05:36 -0500
Jon Severinsson wrote:
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> I have no idea why there is no (package-masked) Apache 2.2 in portage, I
> would have liked that to, but I would like to defend the gentoo-java
> team, who I think are doing a wonderful job. Currently they are very
> busy trying to do the java-config migration required for Java 1.5 (and
> Java 1.6), which is an impressive undertaking considering their lack of
> manpower. (see
Indeed. We are quite busy with preparing for the migration, and will be 
busy with the actual migration once it begins. In the meantime, we are 
in the midst of a package freeze.

As for Apache-2.2 (and in general) ... it is usually worth checking 
bugzilla for bugs about version bumps. In this case, a quick search yields:

> After that I assume they will refocus on rev bumps such as Tomcat 5.5.
> For the impatient you can take a look at the experimental overlay, where
> Tomcat 5.5 already is present.
> (see
The maintainer of tomcat went MIA several months ago. Recently, one of 
our users has been giving tomcat-5.5 some lovin in the experimental 
overlay. He also began work on updating mod_jk to go with it, but I'm 
not sure what the status is on that.

> As for jdk's, currently only 5 is fully supported (blackdown-jdk-1.3,
> blackdown-jdk-1.4, ibm-jdk-bin-1.4, sun-jdk-1.3, and sun-jdk-1.4), but
> in addition there is 8 more available if you have special
> needs/interests (compaq-jdk-1.3, ibm-jdk-bin-1.5, jrockit-jdk-bin-1.5,
> sun-jdk-1.2, sun-jdk-1.5, sun-jdk-1.6, kaffe-1.1, sablevm-1.11), and we
> are still not counting jre's (all above, blackdown-jre-1.3,
> blackdown-jre-1.4, sun-jre-bin-1.4, sun-jre-bin-1.5, compaq-jre-1.3,
> ibm-jre-bin-1.4, sablevm-1.1, jamvm-1.3, jamvm-1.4, ikvm-0.14,
> ikvm-0.20, ikvm-bin-0.14), in total 25 options, counting only the one's
> I know about (there's probably more, whose name doesn't include jre, jdk
> or vm, and I thus missed). I wouldn't say there is a lack of choices,
> though I would like kaffe and sablevm better supported.
One day, I'd like to be able to build our entire Java stack with a free 
VM. Unfortunately, a good number of packages use com.sun.* classes 
directly, which wouldn't be available from non-sun VMs.

> Michael Vince skrev:
>> Hi all,
>> I just installed Gentoo on my laptop after having FreeBSD as my desktop
>> for a long time.
>> I felt Gentoo would be my best shot at using and enjoying a Linux
>> distribution for my desktop, as Gentoo promises a lot of freedom and
>> choice.
>> All up its pretty darn good but I have to say I am a bit disappointed
>> with the Tomcat/Apache/Java choices Gentoo portage has to offer.
>> The main reason I am interested in Gentoo Linux was the fact I can use a
>> Java supplied from Sun as an alternative to some of the FreeBSD native
>> Java compiled via ports with Tomcat.  I have servers running under
>> Apache2.0.55 and Apache2.2.0 with Tomcat 5.5.x
>> My main problems are there is not a full set of choices of  Apache that
>> being just 1.3.x or Apache 2.0.x and no Apache 2.2.x.
>> Apache 2.2.x has some great new features like a built in AJP module for
>> linking Tomcat and Apache together with out needing the external mod_ajp
>> module.
>> Secondly there is only Tomcat 5.0.x in portage, in FreeBSD there is
>> Tomcat3,Tomcat4,Tomcat41, Tomcat5 and Tomcat55
>> I do have to admit I think I will be happy with even just 1 Java in
>> Linux since I know it comes from Sun for Linux which I expecting should
>> be of a good quality. Believe it or not but doing a 'cd
>> /usr/ports/java/; ls | grep -c  jdk"  in FreeBSD returns a count of 15
>> Java choices, admittedly half of then being the Linux ones for use via
>> the Linux kernel emulation.
We should have all the major JDKs and JREs. If we are missing some, 
please feel free to file requests on our bugzilla.

>> I installed Gentoo on my laptop with a bit of excitement and was going
>> to start doing some benchmarks and testing with Apache 2.2 and Tomcat
>> 5.5 just to find I will have to start manually building it all and
>> manually installing it all my self.
>> My question is does any one have any idea of when Apache projects such
>> as Tomcat 5.5 and Apache 2.2 will be in portage?
- Josh
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