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Greg Tassone wrote: |
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> On Tue, 2005-11-29 at 13:50 +0200, Petteri Räty wrote: |
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>>Greg Tassone wrote: |
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>>>FYI: There is nothing "unstable" about JDK 1.5 (or Java 5). |
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> ... |
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>> It has simply |
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>>>been package-masked here at Gentoo because there have been some |
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>>>lingering ebuilds that didn't compile cleanly with it. Hopefully it is |
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>>>going to be unmasked VERY soon. |
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>>> |
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>>It also by default produces class files that are not compatible with |
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>>earlier versions etc. |
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> ... |
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>>You can safely make 1.5 the user vm using java-config -s. But just be |
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>>sure you don't ever set it as the system vm. |
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> Very true. Just to clear up any confusion for others on the list, this |
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> means that if you are trying to run a 1.5 JDK as the primary on your |
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> system at the same time you have a 1.4 JDK running, the 1.4 JDK will be |
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> unable to use most of the code compiled from the 1.5 JDK (by default). |
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> Since most packages on the Gentoo distro compile themselves from source |
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> (Java included), having a 1.5 JDK as your *system VM* means that your |
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> Java applications would be compiled so that ONLY Java 5 (and higher) |
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> runtimes could use the applications. This is a show-stopper for those |
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> still running a 1.4 JDK (at least for non-developers, who should know |
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> how to deal with this stuff anyway): |
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> Choices: |
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> * Run only 1.5 or higher on your system (with no intention of ever |
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> going back down). Note that as of a while ago certain packages |
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> in the Portage tree still required 1.4, so this approach may |
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> preclude installing those packages from Portage. |
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> --OR-- |
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> * Take Petteri's advice and leave 1.4 as the system VM, and set |
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> your "user" VM to 1.5 (or higher) if desired. |
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> HTH to clarify... |
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> Greg |
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So who wants to run a 1.4 JDK? And what, exactly, prevents anything |
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from being compiled under 1.5? The only thing I can think of is the |
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user of the newly reserved word 'enum'. Big deal. How long has 1.5 |
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been around now? |
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My perception is that there is only an ideological impediment to going |
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with 1.5. That is that it will be a long time before the |
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Stallman-approved JVMs support 1.5. So, the Java herd on Gentoo Stalls |
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the adoption of 1.5, just to "prove" that 1) you don't need it, and 2) |
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it's a very bad thing. Or at least it will be until the "free as in |
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slaves to ideology" crowd get their act together. Thanks for nothing. |
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Peter |
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Peter B. West <http://cv.pbw.id.au/> |
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