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From: Jon Severinsson <jon@...>
Subject: Re: Gentoo Java / Apache Tomcat choices vs FreeBSD
Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 10:24:27 +0100
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I have no idea why there is no (package-masked) Apache 2.2 in portage, I
would have liked that to, but I would like to defend the gentoo-java
team, who I think are doing a wonderful job. Currently they are very
busy trying to do the java-config migration required for Java 1.5 (and
Java 1.6), which is an impressive undertaking considering their lack of
manpower. (see

After that I assume they will refocus on rev bumps such as Tomcat 5.5.
For the impatient you can take a look at the experimental overlay, where
Tomcat 5.5 already is present.

As for jdk's, currently only 5 is fully supported (blackdown-jdk-1.3,
blackdown-jdk-1.4, ibm-jdk-bin-1.4, sun-jdk-1.3, and sun-jdk-1.4), but
in addition there is 8 more available if you have special
needs/interests (compaq-jdk-1.3, ibm-jdk-bin-1.5, jrockit-jdk-bin-1.5,
sun-jdk-1.2, sun-jdk-1.5, sun-jdk-1.6, kaffe-1.1, sablevm-1.11), and we
are still not counting jre's (all above, blackdown-jre-1.3,
blackdown-jre-1.4, sun-jre-bin-1.4, sun-jre-bin-1.5, compaq-jre-1.3,
ibm-jre-bin-1.4, sablevm-1.1, jamvm-1.3, jamvm-1.4, ikvm-0.14,
ikvm-0.20, ikvm-bin-0.14), in total 25 options, counting only the one's
I know about (there's probably more, whose name doesn't include jre, jdk
or vm, and I thus missed). I wouldn't say there is a lack of choices,
though I would like kaffe and sablevm better supported.

- - Jon Severinsson

Michael Vince skrev:
> Hi all,
> I just installed Gentoo on my laptop after having FreeBSD as my desktop
> for a long time.
> I felt Gentoo would be my best shot at using and enjoying a Linux
> distribution for my desktop, as Gentoo promises a lot of freedom and
> choice.
> All up its pretty darn good but I have to say I am a bit disappointed
> with the Tomcat/Apache/Java choices Gentoo portage has to offer.
> The main reason I am interested in Gentoo Linux was the fact I can use a
> Java supplied from Sun as an alternative to some of the FreeBSD native
> Java compiled via ports with Tomcat.  I have servers running under
> Apache2.0.55 and Apache2.2.0 with Tomcat 5.5.x
> My main problems are there is not a full set of choices of  Apache that
> being just 1.3.x or Apache 2.0.x and no Apache 2.2.x.
> Apache 2.2.x has some great new features like a built in AJP module for
> linking Tomcat and Apache together with out needing the external mod_ajp
> module.
> Secondly there is only Tomcat 5.0.x in portage, in FreeBSD there is
> Tomcat3,Tomcat4,Tomcat41, Tomcat5 and Tomcat55
> I do have to admit I think I will be happy with even just 1 Java in
> Linux since I know it comes from Sun for Linux which I expecting should
> be of a good quality. Believe it or not but doing a 'cd
> /usr/ports/java/; ls | grep -c  jdk"  in FreeBSD returns a count of 15
> Java choices, admittedly half of then being the Linux ones for use via
> the Linux kernel emulation.
> I installed Gentoo on my laptop with a bit of excitement and was going
> to start doing some benchmarks and testing with Apache 2.2 and Tomcat
> 5.5 just to find I will have to start manually building it all and
> manually installing it all my self.
> My question is does any one have any idea of when Apache projects such
> as Tomcat 5.5 and Apache 2.2 will be in portage?
> Regards,
> Mike
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