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From: Joshua Nichols <nichoj@g.o>
To: robert burrell donkin <robertburrelldonkin@×××××.com>
Cc: gentoo-java <gentoo-java@l.g.o>
Subject: Re: [gentoo-java] Java ideas for Summer of Code
Date: Sun, 07 May 2006 13:12:18
Message-Id: 445DF21C.4090501@gentoo.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-java] Java ideas for Summer of Code by robert burrell donkin
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4 robert burrell donkin wrote:
5 > On 5/5/06, Joshua Nichols <nichoj@g.o> wrote:
6 >>
7 >> robert burrell donkin wrote:
8 >> > On 5/4/06, *Joshua Nichols* <nichoj@g.o
9 >
10 >
11 > <snip>
12 >
13 >> why the emphasis on software libre?
14 >> >
15 >> And I think you're reading too much into what I said. By libre, I really
16 >> mean open source.
17 >
18 >
19 > good :-)
20 >
21 >> why exclude ASL'd libraries from the effort?
22 >> ASL? Do you mean the Apache license?
23 >
24 >
25 > yep
26 >
27 > In either case, I don't recall
28 >> saying anything about excluding anything.
29 >
30 >
31 > ASL2 is still incompatible with GPL2
32 >
33 > free java means rebuilding the complete stack including replacements for
34 > all
35 > ASL'd applications and libraries. so there's a little bit of politics in
36 > the
37 > mix.
38 >
39
40 So you're saying that 'free java' refers to java licened under the GPL?
41 If that's what you're stuck up on, I guess I should be saying open
42 source java (which I could have sworn I've been saying from the start)
43
44
45 >> why not open source java?
46 >> >
47 >> Uh, open source java is EXACTLY what I'm talking about :)
48 >
49 >
50 > good :-)
51 >
52 > gump (http://gump.apache.org/) builds and tests 700 projects from source
53 > each day. IIRC the classpath team run gump. might be able to dig out an url
54 > if you're interested in seeing the current level of progress.
55 >
56 > in general, finding a way to generate EBUILDs from gump descriptors would
57 > make available a lot of libraries and applications without extensive
58 > effort.
59 > a maven EBUILD plugin would be even better.
60
61 ebuild isn't an acronym, so you don't need to capitalize it all ;)
62
63 But having a way to generate ebuilds from gump descriptor or maven
64 project files would be intersting and all well and good... but someone
65 would actually have to do the work to put it together. That person isn't
66 likely me in the foreseeable future, unless someone has a deal on cloning.
67
68 >
69 > apache has a lot of API implementations but they are scattered amongst
70 > different projects. it would probably be generally a good thing if they
71 > were
72 > more easily accessible. fixing that would also be a big gain for a small
73 > amount of effort.
74
75 'small amount of effort' for whom? Adding a lot of packages doesn't
76 particularly sound like a small effort to me. Another hurdle is that
77 many projects are switching to maven for building, and as I describe in
78 the project ideas, we aren't quiet ready to handle using it to build.
79
80
81 - - Josh
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