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On 2012/12/17, at 10:58 , Marijn wrote: |
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> On 14-12-12 14:24, Andrey G. Grozin wrote: |
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>> Hello *, |
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> Hi Andrey, |
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>> Things from the lisp overlay migrate to the main tree very slowly. |
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>> And even in the overlay some important new versions are absent. |
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>> sbcl-1.1.* for example. |
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> Indeed! None of the few Gentoo developers interested in lisp seem to |
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> have enough time to spare to work much on Common Lisp. |
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>> Today, I committed to the main tree |
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>> asdf-2.26 gentoo-init-1.0 sbcl-1.1.2 |
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>> All this stuff is pmasked. I am not a lisp expert myself, I only |
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>> use lisp to compile maxima and fricas. sbcl seems the best lisp for |
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>> this, it is fast and problem-free. So, I am really interested in |
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>> having recent versions of sbcl in the tree. |
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> Maybe you should consider expanding your knowledge of Common Lisp if |
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> you rely on software written in it a lot. None of the (other) few |
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> Gentoo developers interested in lisp seem to have enough of an |
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> investment/interest in Common Lisp at the moment to even keep SBCL |
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> up-to-date. |
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Indeed, this is a problem. |
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I'm a CL programmer, and a gentoo (l)user, but I never even tried to use the lisp overlay (how do we do that? I'd have to read the documentation of gentoo). |
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So, I'm not a gentoo lisp user, and I don't have now (and neither for the forseable future) the time resources to work on that. |
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Currently, as a lisp user, quicklisp provides the best distribution channel for Common Lisp libraries (it may not be perfect, but it works well enough). |
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Perhaps we have a egg-chicken problem here: with more lisp developer, we'd have more resources to integrate lisp into distributions (like python or ruby are integrated; distribution package management software is often written in python or ruby! (perhaps we should write a linux distrubution package management in CL, so that CL would be native on that distribution, (perhaps based on quicklisp), and if we add nice pictures, it could be a success?)), and with more lisp in GNU/linux distributions, we'd get more lisp programmers? |
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__Pascal Bourguignon__ |
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