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From: Markos Chandras <hwoarang@g.o>
To: gentoo-mips@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-mips] Reducing the number of the MIPS supported stages
Date: Mon, 05 May 2014 17:17:50
Message-Id: 5367C75B.7010906@gentoo.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-mips] Reducing the number of the MIPS supported stages by Justin Cormack
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4 On 05/05/2014 06:13 PM, Justin Cormack wrote:
5 > On May 5, 2014 3:07 PM, "Markos Chandras" <hwoarang@g.o>
6 > wrote:
7 >>
8 >> Hi all,
9 >>
10 >> Right now the number of stages for each endianness is 8:
11 >>
12 >> - mips1 - mips32 - mips32r2 - mips3 - mips4 - mips4_r10 - mips64
13 >> - mips64r2
14 >>
15 >> ==> 16 stages in total.
16 >>
17 >> This takes quite a bit of time for all stages to be built (by the
18 >> time
19 > everything is built, we are one month passed the time the snapshot
20 > was taken). How about stop building stages for mips1, mips3 and
21 > mips4? We keep the existing stages on the mirrors but we will no
22 > longer update them (or maybe we do on per user or per case basis).
23 > I understand there is hardware for these ISAs but how often do
24 > people actually use the new stages?
25 >>
26 >> Just to be clear, I am not suggesting for the team to stop
27 >> supporting
28 > these ISAs but to stop building new stages and let the users of
29 > such ISAs, grab an old stage3 and do the update themselves if
30 > needed.
31 >>
32 >> This will free up some hardware resources for building different
33 >> stages
34 > for the newer ISAs (maybe more non-multilib n32 and n64 variants
35 > etc)
36 >>
37 >> What does everyone think?
38 >>
39 >
40 > Agree in general but not quite sure about the choice. Mips3
41 > (fuloong) is still quite widely used I think. Mips32 might not be
42 > though, Android seems to be mips32r2
43 >
44 > Has anyone asked Imagination for resources to support this?
45
46 I work for Imagination :) and resources is not huge problem. Like I
47 said, I am happy to do it provided there is good reason (and userbase)
48 to do it. Regarding mips3/fuloong users can still get an existing
49 stage3 and update afterwards. Like I said before, I never proposed to
50 drop these stages from mirrors, just to stop updating them.
51
52 Ideas are welcomed, my initial email was just a suggestion and my goal
53 was to kick off a discussion
54
55 - --
56 Regards,
57 Markos Chandras
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